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 Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| notchboy wrote: |
My favorite feature is the rats nest electrical system under the dash. That there makes me want to spend 18k   |
Some folks associate rat's nest with barn find. Their eyes light up with $$$.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| kawfee wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| My favorite feature is the rats nest electrical system under the dash. That there makes me want to spend 18k |
Some folks associate rat's nest with barn find. Their eyes light up with $$$. |
The switch plate right above the nest with all the toggle switches tells me the rats are tweakers, too.
Crack pipe pricing at its finest.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| Donnie strickland wrote: |
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I think this was on here before, and it got ripped apart back then. I still have to ask why it doesn't have any wipers, for a car the could be driven and caught in the rain? Also, why does it have IRS engine mounts, but no mention of having an IRS trans. Seems like a lot of work to add them, when it's not really needed for a swing axle trans.
And with all the bucks dumped into it, why not go dual carbs and keep it all under the floor?
Sorry I know there's more but...
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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They are excellent carbs.
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Yeah, on a Vega or a Pinto. 
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| raygreenwood wrote: |
They are excellent carbs.
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Yeah, on a Vega or a Pinto. |
Yes....truly.....on any of the inline 4's!
Its not that they are a poor design. One of only two American cars I havd owned....was a 1976 Chevy Monza.....4 cylinder Vega engine and a Holly 5200 with a Muncie 4 speed.
The basic Holly.two barrel that most of these center mounted prog's (or sequential) are based on.....are actually a good basic design. Lots of parts, easy to adjust and work on.....but tbey really have no business on any manifold tjat is not water heated.......which is none of ours. Ray |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| raygreenwood wrote: |
| Bobnotch wrote: |
| raygreenwood wrote: |
They are excellent carbs.
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Yeah, on a Vega or a Pinto. |
Yes....truly.....on any of the inline 4's!
Its not that they are a poor design. One of only two American cars I havd owned....was a 1976 Chevy Monza.....4 cylinder Vega engine and a Holly 5200 with a Muncie 4 speed.
The basic Holly.two barrel that most of these center mounted prog's (or sequential) are based on.....are actually a good basic design. Lots of parts, easy to adjust and work on.....but tbey really have no business on any manifold tjat is not water heated.......which is none of ours. Ray |
PLease don't ever mention Vega or Pinto . That 4 cylinder Vega engine with the water pump driven by the back of the timing belt was a time bomb .
And Pinto . I bought one for my Ex in 72 a green wagon . All that extra barrel on the carb did was react when you forced the auto trans to downshift yet did absolutely nothing for performance.
This must be the place every one hangs out . Man you people are harsh picking on some sawsall /drill happy butcher turning something into their pride and joy .
Who knows what would happen if one of those fine toggle switches was flipped on if anything easily ignited was 20 feet away.
When the hole is hacked out of the engine lid for that carb why not finish the job and run a nice duct straight up through the roof with ram air induction.
One could preheat the incoming forced flow system via an internal home made 2000 watt heating coil , perhaps that's what one of the nice toggles future function might have been.
Does anyone remember the year 1971 when the Pinto and Vega and super beetles came out . Before that the Ford maverick 1969 had no options just a few colors of the same cheap plaid interior and grabber yellow green and orange exterior paint. |
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:29 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| blues90 wrote: |
| raygreenwood wrote: |
| Bobnotch wrote: |
| raygreenwood wrote: |
They are excellent carbs.
Ray |
Yeah, on a Vega or a Pinto. |
Yes....truly.....on any of the inline 4's!
Its not that they are a poor design. One of only two American cars I havd owned....was a 1976 Chevy Monza.....4 cylinder Vega engine and a Holly 5200 with a Muncie 4 speed.
The basic Holly.two barrel that most of these center mounted prog's (or sequential) are based on.....are actually a good basic design. Lots of parts, easy to adjust and work on.....but tbey really have no business on any manifold tjat is not water heated.......which is none of ours. Ray |
PLease don't ever mention Vega or Pinto . That 4 cylinder Vega engine with the water pump driven by the back of the timing belt was a time bomb .
And Pinto . I bought one for my Ex in 72 a green wagon . All that extra barrel on the carb did was react when you forced the auto trans to downshift yet did absolutely nothing for performance.
This must be the place every one hangs out . Man you people are harsh picking on some sawsall /drill happy butcher turning something into their pride and joy .
Who knows what would happen if one of those fine toggle switches was flipped on if anything easily ignited was 20 feet away.
When the hole is hacked out of the engine lid for that carb why not finish the job and run a nice duct straight up through the roof with ram air induction.
One could preheat the incoming forced flow system via an internal home made 2000 watt heating coil , perhaps that's what one of the nice toggles future function might have been.
Does anyone remember the year 1971 when the Pinto and Vega and super beetles came out . Before that the Ford maverick 1969 had no options just a few colors of the same cheap plaid interior and grabber yellow green and orange exterior paint. |
I had no problems with,either of them. The Vega...early model....sucked primarily because GM....in their constant stupidity gave it a radiator the size of a teacup. It overheated chronically and warped the head. The issues with piston coatings were a secondary issue.
By the time it got into the Monza I drove...it had a full size radiator. I put 150k on it. When it,started burning oil....I put steel sleeves in it and rebuilt it. Ran like a top. Easy to work on valve train.
The pinto...say what you want. The ford 2.3 inline 4 and the four speed it came with were bulletproof. A buddy if mine had a pinto from the last year it was made bought new. I drove it for 6 months. Quite a decent car actually.
They were both ugly....but got a rep worse than reality...IMHO.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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I got a sincere laugh out of this ad...
"Hey, buy this picture of my car for over 3x what it would cost you to get one of your own car!" |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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I got a sincere laugh out of this ad...
"Hey, buy this picture of my car for over 3x what it would cost you to get one of your own car!" |
And it isn't even a good photo...
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That appears...to have been taken through a bed sheet hanging on a clothes line!
Talk about a "vanity" filter! This is just like that app for snapchat that all the chicks like..... that with the flick of a button will "smooth" your facial features...make you thinner and get rid of acne!
If you have not heard of it...Google Snapchat "pretty filter".
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| blues90 wrote: |
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| Bobnotch wrote: |
| raygreenwood wrote: |
They are excellent carbs.
Ray |
Yeah, on a Vega or a Pinto. |
Yes....truly.....on any of the inline 4's!
Its not that they are a poor design. One of only two American cars I havd owned....was a 1976 Chevy Monza.....4 cylinder Vega engine and a Holly 5200 with a Muncie 4 speed.
The basic Holly.two barrel that most of these center mounted prog's (or sequential) are based on.....are actually a good basic design. Lots of parts, easy to adjust and work on.....but tbey really have no business on any manifold tjat is not water heated.......which is none of ours. Ray |
PLease don't ever mention Vega or Pinto . That 4 cylinder Vega engine with the water pump driven by the back of the timing belt was a time bomb .
And Pinto . I bought one for my Ex in 72 a green wagon . All that extra barrel on the carb did was react when you forced the auto trans to downshift yet did absolutely nothing for performance.
This must be the place every one hangs out . Man you people are harsh picking on some sawsall /drill happy butcher turning something into their pride and joy .
Who knows what would happen if one of those fine toggle switches was flipped on if anything easily ignited was 20 feet away.
When the hole is hacked out of the engine lid for that carb why not finish the job and run a nice duct straight up through the roof with ram air induction.
One could preheat the incoming forced flow system via an internal home made 2000 watt heating coil , perhaps that's what one of the nice toggles future function might have been.
Does anyone remember the year 1971 when the Pinto and Vega and super beetles came out . Before that the Ford maverick 1969 had no options just a few colors of the same cheap plaid interior and grabber yellow green and orange exterior paint. |
I had no problems with,either of them. The Vega...early model....sucked primarily because GM....in their constant stupidity gave it a radiator the size of a teacup. It overheated chronically and warped the head. The issues with piston coatings were a secondary issue.
By the time it got into the Monza I drove...it had a full size radiator. I put 150k on it. When it,started burning oil....I put steel sleeves in it and rebuilt it. Ran like a top. Easy to work on valve train.
The pinto...say what you want. The ford 2.3 inline 4 and the four speed it came with were bulletproof. A buddy if mine had a pinto from the last year it was made bought new. I drove it for 6 months. Quite a decent car actually.
They were both ugly....but got a rep worse than reality...IMHO.
Ray |
The Pinto with the 4 speed was fine with an auto not so good. I worked on hundreds of them through my years working for Ford . The main issue was most owners waited far to long to change the timing belt. They were cracked and slack and at the end of the self adjusters capability.
The Vega engine was an odd breed . Looked like an aluminum box with 4 cast is cylinders with nothing to support them like webbing to the case and then a cast iron head . Worst part was the water pump had 4 slotted holes and this was the timing belt adjustment and they used the back of the belt smooth surface for the belt tension . Once it wore enough the pump would slip and then it would over heat .
The main issue with both were owners waiting far to long and didn't maintain them.
I feel the Fords 2.3 was a far better design .
The main reason for my dislike for the Vega is when I moved here in 81 my wife's younger brother owned one with the burning oil syndrome and I worked at a Ford dealership in a horrid area was asked to repair it for free . I carried the head a few blocks to a chevy shop down the alley so they could do the head as I rebuilt the block after work hours . I told him keep checking the oil . Being the full of himself jerk he is he didn't and burned the engine up and it was all my fault. Last time I worked on any car of someone I knew was 85 a neighbor in this apt building and his 4 cylinder Volvo wagon . It was also a for free deal yet at least the couple that owned it checked the oil as the rings seated in.
All the decades I worked as a tech I took pride in my work knowing the issue was fixed and never replaced a single part that didn't absolutely need it . If it was some small item requiring no parts I'd fix it for free , sometimes right out in the drive some were first time customers and as I walked by I'd hear them taking to the service adviser.
Some customers would bring their car in and while working on it I'd find a bag full of plastic interior trim parts and knew where they belonged and put them all back in place . After when they picked up the car the service adviser would walk up to me with the customer asking where the bag was and the shock on their faces when I told them I put them back where they fell off. I was not paid by the hour it was all by the job , no work no pay.
Not only did it make their day it made mine. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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This must be the place every one hangs out . Man you people are harsh picking on some sawsall /drill happy butcher turning something into their pride and joy .
When the hole is hacked out of the engine lid for that carb why not finish the job and run a nice duct straight up through the roof with ram air induction.
One could preheat the incoming forced flow system via an internal home made 2000 watt heating coil , perhaps that's what one of the nice toggles future function might have been. |
Shhhh, don't give them any ideas. It's already bad enough that a good amount of those hatch covers are already butchered.
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64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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They are excellent carbs.
Ray |
Yeah, on a Vega or a Pinto. |
Yes....truly.....on any of the inline 4's!
Its not that they are a poor design. One of only two American cars I havd owned....was a 1976 Chevy Monza.....4 cylinder Vega engine and a Holly 5200 with a Muncie 4 speed.
The basic Holly.two barrel that most of these center mounted prog's (or sequential) are based on.....are actually a good basic design. Lots of parts, easy to adjust and work on.....but tbey really have no business on any manifold tjat is not water heated.......which is none of ours. Ray |
Yup, great little car. I had a 76 Vega, and it had steel sleeves installed at the factory, along with a full size radiator. Never had an issue with it. I swapped out the 4 speed for an AT and my wife drove that car for years. That thing was a true check the oil and fill it with gas kind of car. Never had to do much more than oil changes and front pads while we had it. Maybe toss an air cleaner at it once in a while.
I should also mention I currently have a 76 Vega Cosworth here, complete with 5 speed with Bosch-Rochester FI. A strange beast, but rust free. It had a "postage stamp" radiator in it when I got it, but that got swapped out for an all aluminum racing radiator. That fixed it's like to run warm issue.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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This must be the place every one hangs out . Man you people are harsh picking on some sawsall /drill happy butcher turning something into their pride and joy .
When the hole is hacked out of the engine lid for that carb why not finish the job and run a nice duct straight up through the roof with ram air induction.
One could preheat the incoming forced flow system via an internal home made 2000 watt heating coil , perhaps that's what one of the nice toggles future function might have been. |
Shhhh, don't give them any ideas. It's already bad enough that a good amount of those hatch covers are already butchered. |
Yes, we don't need Snorklestang II, based on a Type 3. |
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"You are buying a PAIR of Genuine OEM VW New Old Stock Cylinder heads..."
Price: $850
Uh, nope. No one in their right mind would pay $850 for cylinder heads.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:40 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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Pretty good list - but it's missing one that I can think of:
"I have all/90% of the parts" which means "I have about 60% of the parts because this car has been apart for years". |
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