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ataraxia
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 Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:37 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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You should post some context about why you include a link...
In my opinion, if they're truly NOS heat exchangers, that's not an out of line price. NOS heat exchangers aren't easy to find and tend to be this price or higher when they come up for sale. The seller should have posted more photos or at least an image of the other one that belongs to the pair.
Having said that, I have several for sale, and only one of them is less expensive than those in the ad you linked. |
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KTPhil 
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| That looks pretty cruddy to be NOS. The bands look painted; they were not originally. Looks like one of the mounting tabs is missing or bent. And it is missing the hard-to-find rear donut and clamp. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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To me NOS is new and unused. If something is used it is not NOS.
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ataraxia
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| That looks pretty cruddy to be NOS. The bands look painted; they were not originally. Looks like one of the mounting tabs is missing or bent. And it is missing the hard-to-find rear donut and clamp. |
I tend to agree that they are not in the best of condition but paint and the missing rear clamp do no necessarily mean that they're not NOS.
For example: I have two NOS heat exchangers that are both missing that clamp/gasket - on the same token, I have a set of used heat exchangers that look better than any NOS heat exchanger I've ever seen.
EDIT: Here's a pic of one of my used heat exchangers:
The term "NOS" is a bit of a misnomer, in my opinion, because people automatically think it means that the part is perfect/complete and that's simply not the case in some circumstances. It means that the part is new and hasn't been used - it could have had pieces removed, been painted or scratched up. It's still new and uninstalled - just in shit condition or incomplete.
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notchboy
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| ataraxia wrote: |
| KTPhil wrote: |
| That looks pretty cruddy to be NOS. The bands look painted; they were not originally. Looks like one of the mounting tabs is missing or bent. And it is missing the hard-to-find rear donut and clamp. |
I tend to agree that they are not in the best of condition but paint and the missing rear clamp do no necessarily mean that they're not NOS.
For example: I have two NOS heat exchangers that are both missing that clamp/gasket - on the same token, I have a set of used heat exchangers that look better than any NOS heat exchanger I've ever seen.
The term "NOS" is a bit of a misnomer, in my opinion, because people automatically think it means that the part is perfect/complete and that's simply not the case in some circumstances. It means that the part is new and hasn't been used - it could have had pieces removed, been painted or scratched up. It's still new and uninstalled - just in shit condition or incomplete. |
Or it was an ill fitting reject replacement that simply was tossed back in the box.
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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Or....the term "NOS"......is simply being thrown around like "NOX" was in the "Fast and furious" movies.......and pronounced "Nawssss"......and meaning nothing .....but sounding cool......yeah....it could be that...... 
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| ataraxia wrote: |
The term "NOS" is a bit of a misnomer, in my opinion, because people automatically think it means that the part is perfect/complete and that's simply not the case in some circumstances. It means that the part is new and hasn't been used - it could have had pieces removed, been painted or scratched up. It's still new and uninstalled - just in shit condition or incomplete. |
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ataraxia
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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I wonder where they found reference to a '58 Type 3... |
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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I wonder where they found reference to a '58 Type 3... |
That much?.....jeez......for that price.....I can get half of tbe Kienzle grandfather chime clock my parents have in their hallway....
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pedro sainz
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Well Not Really
Reasonable Price for someone owns
A 58 Type 3 white  needle
Oh Forgot is a 6v and 12v
No Problem there’s a switch on the back 
Somewhere just can’t see it pictures not to Good 
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notchboy
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| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| pedro sainz wrote: |
Well Not Really
Reasonable Price for someone owns
A 58 Type 3 white needle
Oh Forgot is a 6v and 12v
No Problem there’s a switch on the back
Somewhere just can’t see it pictures not to Good |
Check it again
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ataraxia
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| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| pedro sainz wrote: |
Well Not Really
Reasonable Price for someone owns
A 58 Type 3 white needle
Oh Forgot is a 6v and 12v
No Problem there’s a switch on the back
Somewhere just can’t see it pictures not to Good |
Check it again |
$60 is still an optimistic price but it's a bit more realistic than it was previously. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| ataraxia wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| pedro sainz wrote: |
Well Not Really
Reasonable Price for someone owns
A 58 Type 3 white needle
Oh Forgot is a 6v and 12v
No Problem there’s a switch on the back
Somewhere just can’t see it pictures not to Good |
Check it again |
$60 is still an optimistic price but it's a bit more realistic than it was previously. |
I'm going to go ahead and say $60 is crack head insane for that condition.
White needle clocks are a dime/dozen
There are 55 ads for clocks on the site right now, not all white needle though
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| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| That clock looks like it was snagged on a fishing line and wiped of with a scotch bite lens and all. |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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I sent him a $20 offer |
I wonder if you'll "win" the auction. 
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Just want to quickly whine about the CIP1 type 3 rear wraparound reflector seals. Added them in to the cart to get free shipping. They're almost a centimeter too short and a few MM to narrow.
Also bought their turn signal seal pair (wraparound). Sent me two lefts.
So much for that. Back to ISP.
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is it me or does this engine look beat up and rusty for a low mileage??? car?
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