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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: looking for around 120-160 hp Reply with quote

i am building an autocross engine i am looking for 120-160 hp want to build a 1914 with forged crank rods pistons. light flywheel flowed heads, fuel injected, t28 turbo, megasquirt engine management.

do you guys think that ill put out hat im looking for with a berg trans

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you can.Just curious though:it appears you're willing to spend a fair bit of money.Why 1914?With all your doing/spending, a longer stroke will be an advantage.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you get into turbo do some price comparisons. You can build a 160 HP 2110cc with carbs and drive it on the street.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Before you get into turbo do some price comparisons. You can build a 160 HP 2110cc with carbs and drive it on the street.

That's what i say.. .stroke it for torque and n/a will give instant response.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i want the low end tq of the n/a and i want the boost to have really good lo end tq. what stroke will i need for a 2110
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

82 stroke by 90.5 jugs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i want the low end tq of the n/a and i want the boost to have really good lo end tq. what stroke will i need for a 2110


I think if you start looking at what other autocross guys use you wont find made turbos, to much lag out of corners.

You could make your 120hp with a basic 1914 na.

A good auto cross engine combo is a thing unto its self , find some vw autocrossers and ask
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i want the low end tq of the n/a and i want the boost to have really good lo end tq. what stroke will i need for a 2110


I think if you start looking at what other autocross guys use you wont find made turbos, to much lag out of corners.

You could make your 120hp with a basic 1914 na.

A good auto cross engine combo is a thing unto its self , find some vw autocrossers and ask

Agreed.Stroker for sure.Even a quick spool config will give way to the hard,fast pull of an NA 2110 or bigger engine in autocross.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a 100% pro-turbo but I agree with others. For autocross, you'd be better served by a snappy, NA stroker.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i plan on useing a very small turbo if i use on so how bout a stroked 2110 with the small turbo running about 5psi so id have the na power then the added power from the turbo. if no one thinks its a good idea ill just go for the 2110. and none of the autocrossers know about bugs im alone on this one
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you need to do a lot of reading on turbo's and their theory before you start your project.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know how turbos work and have tuned with turbos for a long time. just dont know if its worth the time to put one on a 1914 or a 2110. i already have the turbo and manifolds. i need max tq all the time at almost all ranges of rpm at speeds from 20-60 thats the only reason i would go turbo cause i can get the low end tq of the 1914 or 2110 and have the turbo be spooled up beyond 2000 rpms and hold lots of tq
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you need to be looking at is the autocross spec cams the companys have for NA vw engines, they are made for the TQ spread to want.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: looking for around 120-160 hp Reply with quote

73slammed wrote:
i am building an autocross engine...


Do the rules dictate max displacement ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im running in e mod class and can virtually do anything to my bug so engine the sky is the limit
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