How to verify you have correct Oval front wings?

Clarky · Samba Member Joined: July 14, 2006 Posts: 31 Location: UK

Hi,

I have a pair of wings that came with my old '54 Oval but I stashed them in the loft of my garage until last week.

On closer inspection I think one may be an original wing, the other I think not.

How do I confirm for sure that they are/are not oval wings?

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RareAir · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject:

Does it have the metal wire conduit for the headlight wires?

Clarky · Samba Member Joined: July 14, 2006 Posts: 31 Location: UK

They were still attached to the body rather than the wings hence it adds to my confusion.
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cyberdyne systems 101 · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:24 am Post subject:

look at the mounting area of the wings, it should have pressings between the bolt holes - that will confirm its genuine VW, but not correct age.

Next look at where the running board attaches, does it have a contoured area to match the shape of the running board, or does the wing just smoothly carry on down as normal?

Where the tube for the lights wiring joins the wing, you should see evidence that its been removed (these pieces should remain attached to the wing, being unbolted from the inner wing).

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johnshenry · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:16 am Post subject:

Sunroof53 · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:23 am Post subject:

The grey wing is a repro ,The brown wing is origianal us spec.Grey one is a good shape but does not curve over the wheel as much.

Headlamp bowl
repros have a distict crease in the shape and no conduit.

Very distinct curve here

This shows a right hand wing and the curve from the mounting face up to the headlamp bowl.Repros tend not to have this or curve is the other way.

Flange showing some press marks.Rears have a distict indent

curve over the wheel.

From the top.look how far the headlamp appears forward of the wing

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Clarky · Samba Member Joined: July 14, 2006 Posts: 31 Location: UK

Cheers guys,

Will measure tomorrow to get a better idea, I am thinking the lhs is an oval the rhs a repro.
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Andrew oval · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject:

Sunroof53 · Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:42 am Post subject:

Personally i think there was a short piece tube welded to the bowl and the conduit is over the top of that .hard to say if it was welded or has just rusted in place.

RareAir · Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:54 am Post subject:

vwmadeinireland · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:53 am Post subject:

Don't want to hyjack the topic, but as many others I am in the same situation. I've been offered this set of front fenders, but am unsure whether they are correct for oval or not. Note that they are not US spec. As they are not cheap, I rather know in advance. Any help is very much appreciated.

Bruce · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject:

The pics of the yellow wings do not show the details of an original oval wing. Pics showing the rear end where it meets the running boards, the flange by the headlight bucket, and the flange at the front bottom by the bumper mount will tell the story.
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66 dormi · Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject:

Also weight an original fender is a lot heavier
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fitz57 · Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject:

an oval front fender has a place that sticks up where the running board meets the fender...i tried to find a pic hope you can tell by this

jooles · Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:19 am Post subject:

Subject covered here (well, that's for splits, but early ovals have the same fenders) : http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=262571&highlight=wing+fender

Julien

Kjell Roar · Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:31 am Post subject:

valentinesr · Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:19 am Post subject:

I had asked the same information and started a thread on fenders, cause I to wanted to know more about them.. Heres the link of that information that might help..
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=307483&highlight=front+fender

Heres some pics to help some of the comments from above...
Drivers Side Front (some were saying to look at the pressed nut on the back, here are two different styles.

The flare where it meets the running board...All four fenders I have..

I do have an extra set off a 1953 I picked up last year..but I get home in December..and the drivers side has to get an OG sheet metal donor repair in the headlight bucket area..then off to the body shop for final TLC, then back on TheSamba for a fellow in need of a pair of OG front fenders..
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GLHTurbo · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject:

Are 58 and 59 fenders the same as a 56/57 Fender up front with the exception of lack of bullet indicators? I found a set I think might be worth getting, and can add in the bullets and shave the top mount signals.

Are the rears the same?

AlteWagen · Troll Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 8632 Location: PNW

rears are the same from 56-60. Identified by pressings between bolt holes.


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