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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15278 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:31 am Post subject: ZF LSD |
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I just got a ZF limited slip. Is there any where I can find a diagram or instructions on how to rebuild it. I don't want to take it apart untill I know what is inside. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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Type 5 Joe Banned
Joined: January 18, 2003 Posts: 1795 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: |
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There was a thread on the STF about this topic a little while ago....
No diagram, but they are pretty basic. I guess the clutches last a long time as long as they are not run dry. The thrust plates wear.... You will have to make some if needed. _________________ If you would like to contact me, just email through one of my ads on here...
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Bruce should be along soon. _________________ Glenn
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Stripped66 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
Bruce should be along soon. |
And if he offer's you $20 for that worn out POS, don't sell...I'll offer $40, AND pay shipping _________________
66brm wrote: |
Bodacious wrote: |
Why not just make a custom set of wires with a Y splice in them. Then you could just run one distributor. |
I don't think electrickery works that way |
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gonebuggy Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2005 Posts: 691 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Bruce and I are working together at the moment to make up a batch of replacement thrust washers, better then OG!
Take your apart and survey the damage
Alex |
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gears Samba Member
Joined: October 28, 2002 Posts: 4391 Location: Tamarack, Bend, Kailua
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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OE tabbed thrust washers are available for $18 each, although there's no real reason that they can't be plain (rotating). |
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gonebuggy Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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gears wrote: |
OE tabbed thrust washers are available for $18 each, although there's no real reason that they can't be plain (rotating). |
Where are they available? And yes there is a reason they have to be tabbed...
If they spin it wont be long before they start eating away at the diff body as i found out with mine when they sheared the tabs off!
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gears Samba Member
Joined: October 28, 2002 Posts: 4391 Location: Tamarack, Bend, Kailua
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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ZF went to a non-tabbed thrust washer in all their later diffs without changing body material, so a hardened and precision ground thrust washer isn't going to cause problems. The torn tab and/or lubrication issues is likely what damaged your body.
GT Gears @ (530) 878-4499 $18 ea 42.00mm OD x 31.15 ID x 1.8 thick |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15278 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Got it apart. Got one broken disc???. Everything else looked fine. No uneven wear. All parts looked OK and even thickness all the way around, but I've never seen one tore apart before.
What part is this and anybody know where I can get another one?
_________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
2010 Sportsman ET Champion - Mid-America Dragway - Arkansas City, KS
1997 Sportsman ET Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble ,OK
Featured in Dec. 2001 HOT VW's Magazine page 63
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Glenn Mr. 010
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gears Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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What thickness ? |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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The broken piece is .077" thick and very smooth on both sides. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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gears Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Is this one of the plain plates (totally flat), or is this an early style Belleville washer (curved, outermost part in either end of the stack)? Note: Most ZFs utilize round Belleville washers, while some early ZFs have Belleville's that are shaped like the plain plates ... I suspect that this is one of your two Bellevilles. |
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Banzai KG Samba Member
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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The broken piece is totally flat.
It is for a IRS type I _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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gears Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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pm me with your address, and we'll get one to you ... |
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Bruce Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Careful Paul, Beetle discs are smaller than the stock P discs. _________________
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: |
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The OD of the circular part (not counting the tabs) is 76mm or 2.985"
The ID is 43mm or 1.690" _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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gears Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: |
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These are the same as early 904 ZF, which I'm having made right now ... so I don't have any in stock presently. So those frictions I sent you are too big to be of any use, Bruce ? |
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73notch Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Are the ZF units a Viscious type or a clutch pack type LSD? It seems hard to believe a clutch type would last this long. _________________ SubyNotch.com is back up! |
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