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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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My reasoning is that:
1. All of the "original" Buses I have owned had it on the outside.
2. Without the bracket on the outside as a spacer, the pin can move back and forth unless you add some extra washer(s). This seems bad to me.
3. With the bracket in the middle, the bracket will get a lot more side to side force, potentially wearing out the pivot hole a lot faster.
4. On my '61 Bus, if I put it in the center, it doesn't line up with the pedal any more. _________________ How to Post Photos
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Culito 11010101
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Weird. Mine is on the inside, and everything seems to line up fine. Doesn't look like it was ever taken apart... _________________ Copyright CJ Industries, Inc.
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sub-hatchtim Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2006 Posts: 2610 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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my bus dosent have a j bracket its just a flat piece of metal |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69801 Location: Phoenix Metro
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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My vote is EV on the outside. |
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Stocknazi Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5150
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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On the outside looks like it is correct on my bus; lines up nicely.
Does anyone know if a pin and circlip was ever used to attach the accelerator cable to the L-bracket? _________________ WANTED:
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14255 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Back then I moved it to the inside and it didn't work so I put it back outside. |
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bill may Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 14160 Location: san diego,ca
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Culito 11010101
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Culito wrote: |
Weird. Mine is on the inside, and everything seems to line up fine. Doesn't look like it was ever taken apart... |
As a side note, I bought the repair kit, put the arm on the outside of the "U", and I think it works better than before. _________________ Copyright CJ Industries, Inc.
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poptop Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2003 Posts: 607 Location: jersey
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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I too am having great difficulty getting my pedal to work properly. I press the pedal down and it seems to buckle the L bracket sideways underneath. it is outside j channel. it seems to push latterly instead of straight up and down. I was thinking 1 poss is cable is two short. then lack of bowden tube. but its wierd. maybe its both!!It also gets stuck on edge of the pedal rod hole and keeps a high idle. I was thining of putting inside the j bracket as well. What is the correct way. I looked in my manual and no good shots in the bentley. are early and late cable lengths different and by how much? dont mean to hijack with my issue but its the only thing holding me up now cruisin my bus which has been a long time coming.Ed _________________ So what I drive the short bus! |
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Post some pics of underneath. Cable length shouldn't affect anything unless it's somehow making other parts interfere with the body.
Bowden tube shouldn't matter unless the cable is sticking on something or misrouted in the back so that it is catching on a transmission part. _________________ How to Post Photos
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poptop Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Post some pics of underneath. Cable length shouldn't affect anything unless it's somehow making other parts interfere with the body.
Bowden tube shouldn't matter unless the cable is sticking on something or misrouted in the back so that it is catching on a transmission part. |
will do I will take a little video of action to to better describe. ed _________________ So what I drive the short bus! |
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poptop Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2003 Posts: 607 Location: jersey
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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I can see some obvious deformity in the verticle positioning. I can also see the wobble in the linkage maybe worn. but most off i see the l bracket is not straight. it is curved/ bent creating a side motion. is this suppossed to a flat piece.. if i straighten it will it hold. I do recall when i first got this bus the carb was so rusted frozen the the peddle couldnt be depressed at all and i am sure over the years it was forced hence the bend!!!do i put it my vice or order a new one? Again Thanks for input. ed _________________ So what I drive the short bus! |
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EverettB Administrator
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poptop Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2003 Posts: 607 Location: jersey
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
I'd start by straightening the J-shaped bracket on the frame, that may even solve most of your problems.
It should be straight down.
My '61
You might need to either repair the L-shaped pivot bracket or just order a new repro kit. |
i see your l bracket is offset as well though. I will straighten it tommorrow and see if it helps. I wonder tho if the accelerator cable is also affecting it. 1st things 1st. Thanks Ed _________________ So what I drive the short bus! |
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don.ville Samba YardMan
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 2826 Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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PopTop, you accelerator cable is WAY too hard to pull, that is why all your stuff is jacked up.
In the video, you can see where the forward movement of the cable stops, and then the fun starts with the bending, and wierd stuff.
Take off the accelerator cable from the L bracket before you fix everything.
Also make sure your accelerator pedal allows the rod to come through the floor centered. The pedal should not move side to side. _________________
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don.ville Samba YardMan
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 2826 Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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The following posts are from my BUS Blog link in my signature...
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Lost pedal on the highway with the wife and kid in the bus at 9pm last weekend.
At the side of the road, had to remove previous owner's makeshift cable extension at the carburettor end of accelerator cable (there was a screwed on end, and then an extension made out of a piece of antenna and copper tubing JB welded to the end of that!!! So since the JB weld would no longer keep the extension on , the cable kept slipping out of it, and making pedal fall to the floor.
Plan B remove extension piece, and connect to carb directly, then add tie wraps to front of cable to finish journey. Held up fine, but was certainly not for long term.
I ordered ALL accelerator related parts including the WW rebuild kit and the rubber boot, and then took photos of what I have to assess the situation.
Biggest problem now is getting the old pedal off the floor (as you can see, it is a hardware hinge welded to the pedal and floor.
I don't have a welder, would you recommend I grind the old one off and bolt the new one through the scrappy looking metal left on the floor?
Then get it welded later
Old pedal was held to rod by hose clamp.
Pedal is welded to a hinge welded to floor:
Rust from where hinge is welded to floor.
My emergency roadside tie wrap cable repair.
Floor condition under weld:
Comparing Wolfsburg West pedal to old one (WW pedal is square at the top):
Comparing new pedal to old:
New parts:
New throttle cable
Old throttle cable at carb end:
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Fixed accelerator cable setup....
Still riding with a door hinge on the pedal though |
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While I was at Volkswag-Ken's I had Kenny cut out the door hinge gas pedal and put in the Wolfsburg West part..
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poptop Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2003 Posts: 607 Location: jersey
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:53 am Post subject: fixed er up |
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Well my buddy came by with an accelerator rebuild kit so we started there the l bracket was ovaled as well. we filed thge hole for the new pin as its slightly oversized bent the j mount squared and straight as wel could hooked up the carb and whamo I am cruisin with the sloppiest steering known to buses as I weave down the road again(drag link at Least) adjusted the clutch so no more bearing noise and off we went. Gonna order the drag link and redo the centerpin bushing and hopefully be on my way with only drips of oil behind as a faint memory!!!!Thanks for the sords here and the rebuild kit is pretty good for fit with only a small bit of filing in my case. They were 1 cotterpin too cheap though which is bullshit. They could include 2 or maybe three cause at least you could mess more than once. thats why God invented paper clips I know!!!!! Thanks poptop _________________ So what I drive the short bus! |
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GLHTurbo Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2009 Posts: 1376 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:22 am Post subject: |
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My throttle cable does not have a "hook" on one end, it is a solid circle.
Has anyone used a M6 bolt and nut to secure this to the lever? Or a clevis pin? If so, do you know the sizes I need to get?
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bill may Samba Member
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