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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject: Pre- J-shaped accelerator pivot point Reply with quote

Any pictures of pre-J shaped accelerator pivot bracket ?? I have a Dec.18,1962 kombi..(1963) I am looking for the correct way to link accelerator cable to pivot bracket.. My 63--67 Bentley only shows mounting with the J bracket.. Thanks, Bob King,63,EZ, Long Beach. Ca..
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Pre- J-shaped accelerator pivot point Reply with quote

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Any pictures of pre-J shaped accelerator pivot bracket ?? I have a Dec.18,1962 kombi..(1963) I am looking for the correct way to link accelerator cable to pivot bracket.. My 63--67 Bentley only shows mounting with the J bracket.. Thanks, Bob King,63,EZ, Long Beach. Ca..


This is earlier in the thread
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(Ignore spring)

But a 12/62 Bus should have the J-bracket pictured in this thread and the cable should be hooked right into the L-bracket.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Everett,, I saw that one earlier... My bracket starts off like the J-bracket then just ends ,,does not bend around like the J-bracket,. I bought my Bus in 1969,second owner, I don't think it was ever broken..Mine has the part with the spot welds still there then a perfect right angle, at the bottom, Does not look broken.. Thanks again.. Bob King.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rking6 wrote:
Thanks Everett,, I saw that one earlier... My bracket starts off like the J-bracket then just ends ,,does not bend around like the J-bracket,. I bought my Bus in 1969,second owner, I don't think it was ever broken..Mine has the part with the spot welds still there then a perfect right angle, at the bottom, Does not look broken.. Thanks again.. Bob King.


Can you post a photo? I am having a hard time picturing that in my head.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll try later,, got Mothers Day things going on now.. Thanks for all of your input.. Thanks again. Bob King
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An ell: L with one hole.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hope this shows up OK.. Thanks Bob King ,63 ,EZ, Long Baech, Ca
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just did one two days ago. Here is a link to WW...this what you need:

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211798001

It's tough to tell in the picture but the whole piece is wrong. It looks like a home made "L" bracket.

The rod that attaches to the gas pedal on one end and to the "L" bracket underneath. The rod looks like this..... http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211721615

The rod is held on with a spring on each end (pedal and hole in "L") with springs only.... http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211259283

The elbow of the "L" is held on with a pin.... http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=N132421

The other end of the "L" is where the throttle cable attaches. Judging by your cable it just attaches in the hole of the "L" bracket.

In the 2 pics the Ev posted. The above one is for an earlier bus and the 2nd is for a later. Look on page two of this thread, 1/2 way down. Ev posted a picture of his 61. See the "J" shaped bracket???....your bus doesn't have that. Broke off maybe??

I can't tell in your picture where exactly the "pivot point/elbow" is attached. It appears that someone drilled a hole to attach
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hope this shows up OK.. Thanks Bob King ,63 ,EZ, Long Baech, Ca


My opinion is that your J-bracket is either hacked or broken off.

The part that is left looks original because it has the same spots welds as an original.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffff wrote:
I just did one two days ago. Here is a link to WW...this what you need:

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211798001


Note this photo has not been updated - WW now sells the parts that correctly match original Bus parts. No double hole on the cable side and so on.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jeffff wrote:
I just did one two days ago. Here is a link to WW...this what you need:

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211798001


Note this photo has not been updated - WW now sells the parts that correctly match original Bus parts. No double hole on the cable side and so on.


I actually ordered my kit from Cip, it came with 1 hole. I ordered a new pedal too and it had had a WW stamp on it.....I guess it is safe to assume that Cip gets the odd part from WW.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So...did we decide that on the '67s the bracket goes INSIDE the "J", as shown in the Bentley manual, or did we decide the manual was wrong?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see any reason why a '67 would be different so... on the outside.

I checked my pics of past Buses and the only '67 I had had a pedal pan on it so no dice there but my '66 had it on the outside and it lined up perfectly.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Below is a photo in the 1959 Transporter Workshop manual, so it would be correct for at least thru 1959 or '60.

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And here is an illustration of how VW suggested that dealerships keep the accelerator cable from tangling/rubbing on the tranny. The mechanics could bend up a stiff wire as shown and feed the accelerator cable trough it. From the same Workshop manual...

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I hope this helps someone out there.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Everett, I've got a problem. My spring has broken off in the base. Is the little channel that it lives in open at both ends? Should I be able to push the remains of the spring from the front of the bus towards the seats or do I need to pull it out the way it goes in? The problem is that there is nothing to grab onto to pull it out. I've tried creating a tool to push it from the front to no avail.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Gas pedal linkage - parts and installation Reply with quote

I saw your post and your neat tool but I do not know the answer.
I have never replaced that spring myself without a complete replacement of the floor bracket.

I suspect it gets "welded" to the floor from rust on a lot of Buses.

I think I have seen campingbox say he has replaced it while in place, maybe he can comment.

I was surprised that you were able to knock the pin out with a couple hammer smacks. I think those are usually frozen too.
I wanted to replace the pedal spring my Double Cab (it's actually still free moving) but when I tap the pin a little, I feel like it's going to break the bracket off the floor.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: Gas pedal linkage - parts and installation Reply with quote

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I think I have seen campingbox say he has replaced it while in place, maybe he can comment.

I was surprised that you were able to knock the pin out with a couple hammer smacks. I think those are usually frozen too.
I wanted to replace the pedal spring my Double Cab (it's actually still free moving) but when I tap the pin a little, I feel like it's going to break the bracket off the floor.


Okay thanks! I'd had been spraying the pin everyday couple of days with PB Blaster for at least a couple of weeks before trying to knock it out.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas pedal linkage - parts and installation Reply with quote

If you keep soaking it and lightly tap on the bracket I bet that if your tool is thin enough you will get that bad boy out going at it like you have pictured.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas pedal linkage - parts and installation Reply with quote

Thanks for the help. I ended up using a punch to name the floor go down and away from the hinge. This made enough to get my custom tool in there and pull the remnants of the spring!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas pedal linkage - parts and installation Reply with quote

Is the push rod from pedal to lever straight or does it have a bend in it at all other than the two 90deg at either end ?

Also is/does the lever under the bus have a 90deg 'V' shape to it or or are some less/more of and an angle ?
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