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hbays
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 Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:09 am Post subject: Wide 5 switch. |
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| Anyone ever switch a 67 from 4 lug to wide five? I was wondering about axle length and width issues on a 67. |
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jodaniel1169
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| Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:42 pm Post subject: tire size |
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| what is the largest tirethat will fit on my 70 ghia mounted on a empi 8 spoke repro. just tried 195/65-15 and they rub bad. |
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70 140
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| Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Those wheels are not ideal. You are limited to stock tire size. If you want to run 195's you will need a different wheel. Porsche 914 4 lug wheels Mahle, Fuch, etc are all good choices. |
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Shorrock
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| Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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All Stock:
Stock, 4 Wheel Disc, American Wide 5 Fuch, Vredestein Sprint Classic 185/70 HR 15:
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Relhok
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: tire size |
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| jodaniel1169 wrote: |
| what is the largest tirethat will fit on my 70 ghia mounted on a empi 8 spoke repro. just tried 195/65-15 and they rub bad. |
I'm running 185/55-15 on mine. (3:88 trans) Rear is sagging with plenty of room. I was thinking of getting 195/50-15 and raising the rear if it rubs. |
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pete-stevers
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:21 am Post subject: |
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i too would like to know what is the widest tire that can be run with a 65.
i was hoping to squeeze a 205/50 but want to know if i am dreaming
wo modification of the exterior of the fender
dependent on the rim backspacing..... |
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63ghia
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Location: Anacortes, Wa 98221
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:44 am Post subject: 16x6 and 16x7 fuchs on my 69 ghia? HELP HELP! |
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I got redirected to this thread to post a question and I am just trying to find an answer. I searched through probally 50 pages and 20 differant type of search's in the search engine and cannot get this anawer. I found a great deal and trying to jump before they are gone
Who out there has done this to thier ghia
I found some 16" fuchs and wanted to know if they will fit on my 69 ghia for one and also do I need to narrow my stock width beam and if I need shorter axles ?
The specs for the rear are
16x7
23mm offset
122mm back space
Fronts are
16x6
36mm offset
121mm backspace
thanks
Any tire reccomendations |
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John Moxon 
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70 140
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: |
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16x6 in the front - yes provided you are going to use stock brakes drilled to the 5x130 pattern. You do not need to narrow the beam. 185 width tire would be ideal.
16x7 in the rear - it could work, but you will have to roll the fender. The extra inch (6" vs 7") is added all to the outside of the rim. So it sits out further. Again - no adapters, drill the stock drums and have studs pressed in.
An easier fit would be 16x6 on all 4 corners.
1969 is IRS - you could narrow the trailing arms to get a little extra room, however, you have to watch the distance as the tire gets closer to the spring plate. As it is you may have to work around the hardware that attaches the spring plate to the trailing arm - double spring plates you can move the bolt around to the rear side - single spring plates you may need to use a carriage head type fastener. |
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Greezy Joe
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: tire size |
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| jodaniel1169 wrote: |
| what is the largest tirethat will fit on my 70 ghia mounted on a empi 8 spoke repro. just tried 195/65-15 and they rub bad. |
Empi 8 spokes with 205/50/15 rear and 195/50/15 front.
I'll be going to 205/50/15's front on next tire change.
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Cliff@BrownBags
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this is the wifes 71 vert we are working on. it has a 4" beam, drop spindles, lowered balljoint, tie rod flip, 17s with 205/40s. , full air ride.
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Ghia63
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| Cliff@BrownBags wrote: |
this is the wifes 71 vert we are working on. it has a 4" beam, drop spindles, lowered balljoint, tie rod flip, 17s with 205/40s. , full air ride.
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ye old kraut burner
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hi everyone, I have a few tire questions regarding my 58' ghia
the car:
Current setup
Front
14x5.5 fuchs
175/70-14 tires
Rear
15x6 fuchs
185/65-15 tires
right now, the tire height is backwards as the front tires are taller than the rear. Im ordering new tires online, and I know the fronts will be 175/65-14s to get a less meaty look, but....
Will 195/70-15 fit on the rear without problems, or do I need 195/65's
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sactojesse
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| ye old kraut burner wrote: |
Current setup
Front
14x5.5 fuchs
175/70-14 tires
Rear
15x6 fuchs
185/65-15 tires
right now, the tire height is backwards as the front tires are taller than the rear. |
You mean your front sidewall is taller, right? Your front tires are definitely smaller in diameter when you factor in the 14-inch rim:
175/70-14 = 14 inch rim + 9.65 inch sidewall = 23.65 inch diameter
185/65-15 = 15 inch rim + 9.47 inch sidewall = 24.47 inch diameter
If it fits, a 195/65-15 would get you a taller rear sidewall.
195/65-15 = 15 inch rim + 9.98 inch sidewall = 24.98 inch diameter
Keep in mind that the aspect ratio is a percentage of the tire's section width, so a wider tire with a smaller aspect ratio may have more sidewall than a narrower tire with a larger aspect ratio. That's how a 185/65-15 ends up taller than a 145-15, which is an 82 series tire.
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ye old kraut burner
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You mean your front sidewall is taller, right?
sorry I phrased it incorrectly. the front sidewall is taller than the back, and
it looks "out of wack". I would like to have a shorter tire in the front and
a taller tire in the back to get a "big and little" hot rod stance
do you know if a 195/70-15 would fit?
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ye old kraut burner
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Bump
has anyone squeezed a 195/70-15 under the back of a lowered ghia?
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scottz
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| ye old kraut burner wrote: |
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has anyone squeezed a 195/70-15 under the back of a lowered ghia? |
YES! You can fit one, no problem. I am running 195/70-15 on a 5.5" flat four fuch with 4 1/2 BS. As I'm sure you know, a lot of it depends on your backspacing. I know some people have squeezed 205s on Ghias.
Your car looks AWESOME!! Here's mine, 69 (IRS)
195/70-15 Continentals..
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ye old kraut burner
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:25 am Post subject: |
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excelent! thanks so much for the reply!
what are you running on the front? they look good too
P.S. your ghia is super badass!
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mexico
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This is mine from Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico, 3 inches narrow beam, drop spindles, adjusters, and 145-55R15 Continental tires, KG 1973 Sport Edition.
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rusty57
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:16 am Post subject: Re: Wide 5 switch. |
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Inquiring minds want to know.....I want to put fuchs re-pops on my 67 when it gets home from paint.
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