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c21darrel
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asbug
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San Dimas?
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2004 B5.5 Passat Wagon - no name yet.
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c21darrel
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akear
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Location: Los Angeles
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| Northof49 wrote: |
| I tried the double sided tape that came with a led strip in my engine compartment. It got too hot, the tap fell off, and the led strip got slightly abraded by my fan. |
The tape that came with the strip failed on me too. I reattached with 3m double sided tape for auto trim (bought at Autozone). That stuff is strong! |
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DanUK
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| asbug wrote: |
How are all you early Ghia owners getting these into the solid steel rain trays?
I cannot figure out how to get them into my '69 Vert.
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I have a couple openings (small) on the inside of the lid. Mine is a 1959, but I think the deck lid is slightly later. It was pretty awkward. I used sand paper and a vaccuum to make sure the surface was ready/clean.. placed the strip & used clothes pins to position it in a few small vent holes inside (being careful to make sure I had the wires routed properly to the brake lamps to get the signal!).. then removed the first inch or so of the tape backing and carefully peeled & stuck it down as I moved along the strip. I gave it a good rub into position to make sure it was properly stuck down, covering my hands and fingers in little cuts and indentations in the process
Back to the original question- I propped the deck lid open just enough to get a hand under so I could watch from the top, and had to work through a few vent slots on the inside right where the deck lid shuts near the convertible top |
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Angus Dowrie
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Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Old post, but I have just mounted this at the bottom of my rear window. Wiring through the rear demister vent and double sided tape of the light to the glass means no extra holes.
It is slightly longer than the rear vent by about 20mm. The LED bulb can be rotated to suit the angle of the screen. I've got it mounted but forgot to take a photo of it. Will take one next time I'm there with it wired up. The 'box' minimises any reflection off the glass.
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Angus Dowrie
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h~moto
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I put a third brake light at the bottom of the back window inside my `66 Beetle. I used a Hella bumper mounted reverse light. I replaced the clear lens with a reproduction 1957 and older type II brake light lens. I think this setup would work well for a Karmann Ghia.
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slalombuggy
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I used a Hella bumper mounted reverse light. I replaced the clear lens with a reproduction 1957 and older type II brake light lens.
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Does the lens require modification or did it drop right in?
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h~moto
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| Does the lens require modification or did it drop right in? |
Fits right in. |
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carguy4
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Do you have to remove the rain tray for this type of install?
Thanks in advance.
Doing the spring clean-up, thought illustrating the method would be useful to others - this basically makes the 3rd brake light a "separable" task without too many contingencies on clean surfaces, etc. We attached the lights to some vinyl weatherstripping, and then attached that to the upper screw positions in the rain tray. Basic idea:
Looks like this from back (lights off):
(Please excuse poor phone pic colors)
And then, what it looks like in real life:
(Again, excuse phone pic... We also later found out that tail-lights & brake-lights were reversed in harness wires, but you get the idea...)[/quote]
Looks good! That stretch of roadway looks like Baron Cameron Parkway near Lake Anne Center in Reston, VA.[/quote] |
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e&m_ghia
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Do you have to remove the rain tray for this type of install?
Thanks in advance.
We didn't remove the rain tray, we used the existing screws to find the screw-holes in the shadows. We did it as a 2 person job - one with clever, nimble fingers (E).
The rain trays in the late Ghia's are only held in by a few screws, so it's not a big deal to remove. (Our Ghia didn't come with it, but it was an easy purchase & install.) |
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Figment
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I plan to spend a fair amount of time with a loaded decklid rack, so I put mine up high.
L-61 unit from Watson's. I discarded their pedestal mount and made that little bracket to get it up tighter to the top of the window. Yeah, I know that bracket is going to put a little mooseknuckle in the headliner, but I can live with that.
Turn signals too! 
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c.j.
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| Instead of splicing into the the wires I hooked up my brake light by using a double spade on the brake light bulb and ran the ground wire to the negative side of the coil. It works. |
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SBD
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| Instead of splicing into the the wires I hooked up my brake light by using a double spade on the brake light bulb and ran the ground wire to the negative side of the coil. It works. |
 But wouldn't that only work when the points were closed,,, er open,,, uh, how would that work? 
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sputnick60
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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| Instead of splicing into the the wires I hooked up my brake light by using a double spade on the brake light bulb and ran the ground wire to the negative side of the coil. It works. |
But wouldn't that only work when the points were closed,,, er open,,, uh, how would that work? |
I too was wondering about that. The brakes are usually operating with a running engine and wired as described he has a switched earth via the points. The earth is subject to engine speed and dwell angle. Hardly ideal.
There are plenty of earth points nearby, for example on the generator where you can find a nice 4mm threaded hole just askiing for a spade lug.
LEDs are more responsive than filament lights so that might be why SBD has enough light to make him happy with his work methods.
Nicholas
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c.j.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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| Ran the ground to the body. |
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Steelz21
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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Great idea, safety first. |
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rbsurfguy
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Looks Great, what brand and size did you use?
Jeff
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udo dreisoerner
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:24 am Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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here my tird brake light. it is an aftermarket brake light from the 80's
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