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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: I am so frustated with my bug!!! Reply with quote

Ever since i got a spare tranny i install the engine it would run fine then all the sudden it wouldnt run again after i adjusted the dwell (points). I dont know what to do now except to do a full troubleshooting to elimate all the problems one by one.... Sad Sad any tips anyone?
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check that you're getting power to the coil.

Check that you put the rotor back in the distributor.

If the only thing you did was adjust the points, try replacing the points and condensor.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my old American V-8 cars you could get 'close' and the car would still run okay. On my old VWs, at least in my experience, if the points were off by even a hair after adjusting, the bloody thing wouldn't start again.
This may be a dumb thing to mention (I'm sorry if it is) but make sure the points are in the fully open position when adjusting them.
Some points (especially the cheaper sets) can lock up when they get worn or the weather changes.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Check that you put the rotor back in the distributor.

I've had THAT problem more than once! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol i am certain that the rotor is fine. Right now i am putting a new main harness because i accidentally forgot to plug the idle selanoid wire and when i tried to start it, the wire fried all the way. Brick wall
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My spark plugs are black mean they are fouled so that is probably my answer to the problem.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same problem last week. I wasn't able to start the car for the life of me. I towed to my vw mech. and he changed the pints and condenser. BINGO. the car is working like new again.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess i should get a tune up kits? I bought spark plug wires and spark plugs. I can try my 009 distributor before buying all that stuff just to make sure. If it works then yes the points and the condenser are bad. If not then probably coil?
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hold on- your reverse lights that are plugged into the front of the trans, get their power from the coil (terminal 15- the same one as ignition). If one of those wires is grounding out against the engine or the body due to bad insulation, your coil will be grounded and not produce a spark.

Also, you should have a wide (1" ) braided cable from the front of the tranny to the car's frame, which helps with vehicle grounding. Check that it is there and not broken, and that the attachment points are clean.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mnussbau wrote:
22manybugs wrote:
Check that you put the rotor back in the distributor.

I've had THAT problem more than once! Laughing


But were you kicking your car and yelling at it while in front of a mechanic???? Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rome wrote:
Hold on- your reverse lights that are plugged into the front of the trans, get their power from the coil (terminal 15- the same one as ignition). If one of those wires is grounding out against the engine or the body due to bad insulation, your coil will be grounded and not produce a spark.

Also, you should have a wide (1" ) braided cable from the front of the tranny to the car's frame, which helps with vehicle grounding. Check that it is there and not broken, and that the attachment points are clean.

Actually it's not connected to the coil, maybe i should check to see if it's touching the engine acting as grounding then I will tape it for now.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got the engine back in and it started right up. Then i found out that the adjustments of the point was wrong so now i know. Now next problem it backfires.... I adjusted the valves i set the timing at 7.5 BTDC. I know other problem could be lean fuel but why? I set the carb adjustment back to the beginning is it suppose to backfire even if it's back at the starting point?
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghoti wrote:
mnussbau wrote:
22manybugs wrote:
Check that you put the rotor back in the distributor.

I've had THAT problem more than once! Laughing


But were you kicking your car and yelling at it while in front of a mechanic???? Embarassed

No, this was in my garage, but I was silently hurling curses at myself after I figured it out! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Finally got the engine back in and it started right up. Then i found out that the adjustments of the point was wrong so now i know. Now next problem it backfires.... I adjusted the valves i set the timing at 7.5 BTDC. I know other problem could be lean fuel but why? I set the carb adjustment back to the beginning is it suppose to backfire even if it's back at the starting point?
It shouldn't backfire at the initial settings. After adjusting the valves you need to double-check the points. Then set the timing to 7.5, then run it to warm it up. Then you can tweak the carb, and finally, time it with a timing light. After it's timed you can double-check the carb settings.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I checked the points and i adjust the timing many times and it still back fires.Something isnt right here. I will check the valves to see if it is in the the right adjustment anything else i should check for?
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.vw-resource.com/backfiring.html
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going to use a 009 distributor, you have to at least time it correctly.....

http://www.type2.com/library/electrip/bosch009.htm

If it were me I would toss it in the nearest dumpster. They be junk.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brett Ross wrote:
i set the timing at 7.5 BTDC.

thats not how you set a 009.... your timing is retarded

"the 009 has GOT to be timed to about 30 degrees TOTAL ADVANCE with a timing light. Which means you have to rev it up until the distributor stops advancing to dial it in."
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RattieFattie wrote:
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i set the timing at 7.5 BTDC.

thats not how you set a 009.... your timing is retarded

"the 009 has GOT to be timed to about 30 degrees TOTAL ADVANCE with a timing light. Which means you have to rev it up until the distributor stops advancing to dial it in."

I realize that on my 009 but this time i am running a SVDA distributor.
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