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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

Not sure what to call it or have a part # handy...it's this black plastic ring that fits over the front of the alternator. Engine is a 2.0L type IV.

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I can't find it on the fiches but if someone can point me in the direction of a part number or source for buying a new one that would be great. I'm not sure if it's integral for keeping the alternator cool or not but I would like to have one in place.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I was just browsing through Ratwell's gallery and he has a photo of the seal with a part #: 022 903 203.

Looks like this is it from Bus Depot? http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=022903203
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's it. they are NLA. if you find a new one for sale, grab it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!

I've got an email into Busted Bus about it as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That one in your picture is the later one. It will not fit early tin. Read about K here: http://www.bus-boys.com/aircoolsystem.html

Even though Bus Boys shows a price for the later tin.... do not believe it! It is NLA. They need to update the website.

K. 021-119-281U Alternator Coverplate, Used 1972 to 1974 CALL

K. 022-119-281 Alternator Coverplate, New 1972 to 1979 $21.11

K. 022-119-281U Alternator Coverplate, Used 1972 to 1979 CALL

Note: When using the 022-119-281 plate as a replacement on 1972 to 1974 models, the plastic gasket for the Alternator must be replaced with newer style - order 022-903-203.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a replacement by cutting up and antifreeze jug. Been there for years now and has given no problem to date.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would try Way Out Auto Salvage in AR: 479-665-4126. They will probably only have the used part but you are guaranteed it will be right, they have never failed me on countless orders.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would try Way Out Auto Salvage in AR: 479-665-4126. They will probably only have the used part but you are guaranteed it will be right, they have never failed me on countless orders.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

Dag,

To think of all of these that got thrown away...

Did anyone ever start re-popping these so many years later?

Anyone have one?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

Well, people have them, but I would wager that most are in service, or part of a parts stash.

But now that you mention it, this would be a good candidate for 3-D printing. It's plastic, mostly flat, and would be easy to do.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

Clatter - pm me with an offer for one with USPS if you are interested. The photo was taken today. You might try VW of Germany because that is where these two new ones came from but it was in 2009. I bought a bunch but these two are all that are left.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

SGKent wrote:
Clatter - pm me with an offer for one with USPS if you are interested. The photo was taken today. You might try VW of Germany because that is where these two new ones came from but it was in 2009. I bought a bunch but these two are all that are left.

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I want one:D
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

One should maybe go to someone with the skills to 3-D print them, from some of the stuff I see in this thread the ring doesn't like much of a challenge: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=609153
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

SGKent wrote:
Clatter - pm me with an offer for one with USPS if you are interested. The photo was taken today. You might try VW of Germany because that is where these two new ones came from but it was in 2009. I bought a bunch but these two are all that are left.

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Not sure they have any left now as i bought the last 10 back in 2010(well, thats what they told me)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

SGKent, I drew up a CAD model based on the trace drawing and your photo posted above. Do you mind having a look to see if you think that is close?

Questions I have:
- check the overall dimensions
- thickness for 3D print I set at 3.5 mm -- I'm wondering what the VW part measures at
- what's the height for the lip around the inside circle?

I'll share the STEP file once it's dialed so people can print their own.

Thanks for any help!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

The spare is back in storage and the one I sent to Clatter isn't showing up as delivered. It has taken 5 days to move from San Jose to Clatter's Post Office even though it was 2-day delivery. As soon as he gets it maybe he can measure it. As soon as I get some time I'll get my last one down if he hasn't gotten to it. Thank you for working on this. The originals are a little flexible if that means anything as to the kind of plastic needed.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

Iíll get that thing in-hand likely tomorrow.

Then, Iíll take all kinds of measurements..

This is just in time,
Because these might just be the last NOS examples if this part available to the community.

Thanks for stepping up!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

gatorjos wrote:
SGKent, I drew up a CAD model based on the trace drawing and your photo posted above.
I'll share the STEP file once it's dialed so people can print their own.

Thanks for any help!



for those of us who dont have 3D printers handy, would you be interested in printing a few extras and selling them?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

Yarkle wrote:
gatorjos wrote:
SGKent, I drew up a CAD model based on the trace drawing and your photo posted above.
I'll share the STEP file once it's dialed so people can print their own.

Thanks for any help!



for those of us who dont have 3D printers handy, would you be interested in printing a few extras and selling them?


X2

Is $20 a fair price?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: Black plastic alternator ring Reply with quote

ivwshane wrote:
Yarkle wrote:
gatorjos wrote:
SGKent, I drew up a CAD model based on the trace drawing and your photo posted above.
I'll share the STEP file once it's dialed so people can print their own.

Thanks for any help!



for those of us who dont have 3D printers handy, would you be interested in printing a few extras and selling them?


X2

Is $20 a fair price?


I wouldn't think so but I don't 3d print yet. The item will need to be something strong, flexible, and heat resistant. One of the car programs was 3d printing something similar on a high end printer yesterday and it took 18 hours - essentially all afternoon and night. What is the value of tying up a 3d printer a lot of hours? I would guess $20 is too low. The last one of these original in Classifieds sold for $75 +/-. I won't divulge what I sold to Clatter for with shipping but it cost $6.70 to ship it. That means one is offering $13.30 for the part which has to cover the print material, printer wear, and someone's time. Just saying.
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