Sage Green mixing code?

Bleyseng · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: Sage Green mixing code?

Trying to paint my 77 sage green westy and the paint shop is having a time mixing anything really close.

anyone know the paint mix???

did a search but came up with nada.....
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EZ Gruv · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject:

Cant they just mix it off the paint code? (L63H)
Thats what my body shop did.
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Bleyseng · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject:

yes, they tried that and its a crappy match..

used the computer matching and its too green and does have the yellow/green cast the OEM does...plus the guy seems like a retard.

costing me $$$ to try to custom mix it but I KNOW some of you have got a good match color to the OEM.
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EZ Gruv · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject:

If the guy seems like a retard, you need a new guy.
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Blaubus · Samba Member Joined: October 25, 2003 Posts: 5153

takes a guy who has the talent, patience and knowledge for color. and of course retardation is an additional liability that does not help the situation.

too bad i am not there- i seem to be very good at matching. last time i matched paint, i sprayed just part of a door, and when i got done, no one could tell which part of the door was sprayed when i asked a few people to try and find it. it took an entire day of mixing and spraying and drying to get it that close.

better to buy the paint yourself, and ask the body supply shop for a little extra of each color component. then do it yourself, cuz you cannot afford to have them do it for you- IF they are even able to.

germansupplyscott · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject:

this is going to be a huge problem in the future. single stage paints are getting nearly impossible to buy, and all paint is going to be waterborne very soon ('09 in canada) and then single stage will be even harder to get.

what material are you trying to have mixed? what supplier and what paint? is it single stage or base/clear? a formula will only work for that exact material, for instance PPG deltron.
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WildWally · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject:

Try this. hit up a local NAPA that uses Martin Senour paint and have them mix you up some paint with the code of 22272. that is the code for the L32H Sage Green paint code. They can supply you with every thing you need .
I work at a NAPA that is how I know.
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Bleyseng · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject:

Blaubus · Samba Member Joined: October 25, 2003 Posts: 5153

most of the time, the computer will select the right colors, but in the wrong quantity for each component. find out what components make up the paint.

its not likely to be as simple as a yellow-green. i could be wrong, but what i see in sage green is some brown. brown & green is commonly called "olive green". to get the "olive green" look you must add RED to green, as brown is made of blue, yellow & red, and green is made of just blue and yellow.

in addition to colors, you will find some measure of white and/or black in most VW paints, to pale or muddy it respectively, or both. many times in a situation like this, i would find a very very small amount of red and lot of black. nice thing about black is that it eliminates the identifiability of the slight brown. the green's brown effect becomes nearly subconcious, but still effective. spotting that brown,and knowing it is being muted by black is where component spotting talent is really necessary in determining what quantities of each to add.

WildWally · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject:

The Martin senour color is made up of Medium Yellow, Strong Black, Strong White, Yellow Green.
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Blaubus · Samba Member Joined: October 25, 2003 Posts: 5153

interesting. always wondered if the slight brown look was aging or dirt or what. i have seen many new sage green paints that looked very pure without a hint of olive.

with only four components it shouldnt be hard.

greenbus pilot · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:33 am Post subject:

germansupplyscott · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:23 am Post subject:


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