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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:23 pm    Post subject: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Hello All ,
been looking for ages for a 111-959-631 fog light switch with no luck so started thinking if I could use a spare Hazard switch which I have to operate the fog light relay . I've got a 111-953-235F . Looking at the connectors and running over them with a multimeter I've worked out that I have continuity between terminal 30 & the one marked with a + when the switch is pulled out . Any idea how I can get the bulb to illuminate when the switch is on ? . Can I go from the + to either the L or R or 49a through the bulb to 31 ( ground ) ? , there appears to be a circuit following this path with my multimeter . Will this work or am I going to set fire to my loom ?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Try jumping "+" to 15 and grounding 31.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Thanks for getting back to me Tcash , I'll mock it up & try it out

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Hooking a little 9v battery to the loose spare switch I get :

+ to 30
- to 31
switch pulled out
getting 9V at "+"
jumping from "+" to 15 , no lamp
jumping "+" to "L" or "R" or 49a , lamp on

thoughts ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Then you can use one of the three L,R or 49 to illuminate the light with no problems.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Use a rear window defogger switch and if you don't have one order one from Ken at thebusco.com
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Bleyseng wrote:
Use a rear window defogger switch.

^ This. The rear fog relay switch works just great, unless you want the two-stage fog light switch. There used to be a guy (in Greece?) who sold nice reproduction fog light switch bezels, but I think he's done.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Her name is Eleny, I am happy I bought several. Amber they are.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Thanks for the confirmation Tcash , I'll proceed with the spare hazard flasher switch option . Thanks to all others for your idea's , just need to get a replacement bezel / lens now

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

No, no. Not the hazard switch. Use a defogger switch. Seriously, that is the way to go. There are threads about this. (Search fog lights.)

And if Jeff has "several" bezels, maybe you could talk him out of one, and you would be all set.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

All good jtauxe , I already have the spare hazard switch . PM sent to Jeff

Thanks for all your help

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

BusOK in the Netherlands have original NOS fog light switch lenses for the T2 style switch. There is also a used switch up for sale on there:

https://busok.nl/catalogsearch/result/?q=mistlicht

You could also message Eleny (Topaz) in Greece as mentioned above, and see if she and her husband have any of the repro T2 fog lenses left. I see she last logged on in May:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164699
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Thanks for the tip Chimneyfish , on it now

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Hello Chimneyfish , finally got a used lens from BusOK ( Netherlands ) , it was pretty faded so I decided to try and repaint it . 1st stop was a Hobby shop to get a few items , step by step photos
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happy with the result , I may clear over it

Thanks everyone for your sage words

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Looks good, I wish I'd seen your post earlier....

Hella makes a fog light switch, seen here on my dash with an amber lens (also comes with red and green lens):
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Here's a link:
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/Hella-Fog-Light-Switch-p26508.html

I ordered a replacement lens from ECS Tuning for a different look:
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Here's the link:
https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/9116132340201C/
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Thanks Hopkin , I'm way down the rabbit hole on this one but I'll forward your suggestions to a friend that may want to install a switch as well

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:45 am    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

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Looking at the connectors and running over them with a multimeter I've worked out that I have continuity between terminal 30 & the one marked with a + when the switch is pulled out . Any idea how I can get the bulb to illuminate when the switch is on ? . Can I go from the + to either the L or R or 49a through the bulb to 31 ( ground ) ? , there appears to be a circuit following this path with my multimeter . Will this work or am I going to set fire to my loom ?

The indicator is connected from 49a to 31 (with the switch pulled out).

Power to 30
Lamps to "+"
Tie 49a to "+"
Ground to 31

If you have high current fog lights, you might buffer the switch with a relay, as it was only designed to operate four stop lamp type bulbs.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Defogger switch with new knob and insert. It has been installed for 7yrs or so and works just fine. FYI.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

Hello Telford Dorr , yeah I'm using the switch to operate a relay only

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: How can I use a Hazard switch as a Fog light switch Reply with quote

JR_76BayMicro, sorry only just read this, that is excellent work restoring that lens, and that Tamiya tape looks good stuff, I learnt something new there!
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