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Rogeroo Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2008 Posts: 505 Location: Waterdown Ontario
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: Did a 56 oval ever come equipped with a Judson? |
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I`m wondering if a Judson Supercharger was an available option for the 56 model year?
if so, does it value the car any differently than a naturally asperated intake?
Thanks _________________ Roger |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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It was never a factory option, only an aftermarket option. _________________ ( ⫏ ⫐ )
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Rogeroo Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2008 Posts: 505 Location: Waterdown Ontario
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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IN2VWS wrote: |
It was never a factory option, only an aftermarket option. |
Ahhhh, I see,
Thanks.
is it considered a plus in any respect or is it one of those things that are nice to have IF you are looking to have one or does it make no difference in its value? _________________ Roger |
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14576 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Judson is a vintage performance piece and one in working condition is bound to increase the resale value of the car it is installed in.
But it was never an accessory available from VW themselves. Judson was a US-based company in Pennsylvania |
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Rogeroo Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2008 Posts: 505 Location: Waterdown Ontario
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you very much gentlemen,
One more question.
As I`m unfamiliar with one as I have never seen one up close, how is one to tell if it is operational? _________________ Roger |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13943 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Rogeroo wrote: |
how is one to tell if it is operational? |
Ideally should be relatively silent in operation with just a faint supercharger whistle.
Unfortunately most are worn to differing degrees and make an increasing rattle as wear increases.
Parts however are readily available to rebuild.
On a historical note, from their inception in 1956 until the early '60s Judsons were often available from official VW dealerships...until VWOA found out and threatened any dealership offering them, with termination of their franchise. _________________ John.
Judson Supercharger Information on The Samba
My 1958 Shorrock Supercharged Karmann Ghia
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Rogeroo Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2008 Posts: 505 Location: Waterdown Ontario
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Thanks very much........very informative.
Would you take a moment to look at these two photos and give an opinion as to whether or not the bits and peices appear to be correct or incorrect as best you can?
Thanks.
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[img][/img] _________________ Roger |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13943 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Rogeroo Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2008 Posts: 505 Location: Waterdown Ontario
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:25 am Post subject: |
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oh, your good
I `m 6 hours away from Wayne so I would like to be informed as best I can as I won`t be able to look at the car but once.
He has informed that he will be away til midweek where he then will send a few more pics.
Thanks again. _________________ Roger |
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WELB Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:15 am Post subject: |
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The judson was purchased as a kit from George Folchi in Conn. The kit included both the carb jet and the fuel pump spring. He got his the same time as I got mine from George.
John - I think you can attest to the work that George does with his kits. |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13943 Location: Southampton U.K.
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DMNCLNR Sir Camp'alot
Joined: November 12, 2003 Posts: 2897 Location: Newport Beach Ca
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I was looking at that ad earlier, IMO that is a steal, so you best not wait around too long! _________________ To his their own PBJ
Pl@y@ #1 |
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Rogeroo Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2008 Posts: 505 Location: Waterdown Ontario
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys, much appreciated.
Like mentioned, the owner is away til mid week and unfortunatly i`m too far away just to pop in to veiw the car.
I wished I was closer, I would go tonight.
Anyways, we'll see when he gets back and hopefully the car is in good shape as it appears to be from the photos.
Thanks again. _________________ Roger |
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Envious Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2003 Posts: 1819 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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DMNCLNR wrote: |
I was looking at that ad earlier, IMO that is a steal, so you best not wait around too long! |
Once you subtract the cost of the Judson, the price was great for a solid, original, oval in the north east. The car will be coming into Canada next Monday. I have an original 4 tip muffler in my stash which will be installed on Tuesday. Stay tuned. _________________ 71 Type 1302 Custom
64 Type 151
63 Type 117 L469 Anthracite
64 Type 361 L575 Nutria
64 Porsche 356c
56 Type 113 L227 Strato Silver
52 BSA C11G
59 Heilite Single Wheel Camping Trailer
56 Allstate Single Wheel
84 Vanagon Westfalia
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=388225 |
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Rogeroo Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2008 Posts: 505 Location: Waterdown Ontario
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Envious wrote: |
DMNCLNR wrote: |
I was looking at that ad earlier, IMO that is a steal, so you best not wait around too long! |
Once you subtract the cost of the Judson, the price was great for a solid, original, oval in the north east. The car will be coming into Canada next Monday. I have an original 4 tip muffler in my stash which will be installed on Tuesday. Stay tuned. |
You bought the car?
Good for you, will you have it at the August meet? _________________ Roger |
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Envious Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2003 Posts: 1819 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Rogeroo wrote: |
You bought the car?
Good for you, will you have it at the August meet? |
Yes. I bought it about 3 minutes after the seller emailed and announced his arrival home. He posted 130 pictures and sent a link to everyone who emailed about the car. The timing works out perfect to export/import the car Monday since it's a civic holiday for us up here.
I'll definately bring it with me to our show in August. ( www.bugfest.ca ) I'm bringing a few cars. It's amazing how many people have stepped up and offered to drive it for me _________________ 71 Type 1302 Custom
64 Type 151
63 Type 117 L469 Anthracite
64 Type 361 L575 Nutria
64 Porsche 356c
56 Type 113 L227 Strato Silver
52 BSA C11G
59 Heilite Single Wheel Camping Trailer
56 Allstate Single Wheel
84 Vanagon Westfalia
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=388225 |
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Rogeroo Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2008 Posts: 505 Location: Waterdown Ontario
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Envious wrote: |
Rogeroo wrote: |
You bought the car?
Good for you, will you have it at the August meet? |
Yes. I bought it about 3 minutes after the seller emailed and announced his arrival home. He posted 130 pictures and sent a link to everyone who emailed about the car. The timing works out perfect to export/import the car Monday since it's a civic holiday for us up here.
I'll definately bring it with me to our show in August. ( www.bugfest.ca ) I'm bringing a few cars. It's amazing how many people have stepped up and offered to drive it for me |
Thats great, I`m looking forward to seeing it.
We will do our very best to be there.
As it turns out I may be going alone as my wife and youngest son may not be getting back from up North till the sunday so yeah, may just zip up there alone............this way I can look as long as I want....
Do I need to register? _________________ Roger |
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volksartist Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 264 Location: Muskoka
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Dave, you have a serious problem dude. It will be nice to check the
oval out at bugfest.
That's a nice score, congrats
Kevin |
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Envious Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2003 Posts: 1819 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Rogeroo wrote: |
Do I need to register? |
Nope. Just show up. We've got plans all weekend so check the site for details or pm me with questions. _________________ 71 Type 1302 Custom
64 Type 151
63 Type 117 L469 Anthracite
64 Type 361 L575 Nutria
64 Porsche 356c
56 Type 113 L227 Strato Silver
52 BSA C11G
59 Heilite Single Wheel Camping Trailer
56 Allstate Single Wheel
84 Vanagon Westfalia
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=388225 |
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