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islandveedub Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2003 Posts: 157 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:07 am Post subject: |
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I always use windex to lube my seals before putting the pop outs together. Everything slides together really easily and it doesn't leave any residue since it is made for cleaning glass. Dish soap is a no-no as the soap will get trapped under the seal and keep leeching out putting a film on your glass. I never tried silicone spray before, so I don't have an opinion on that. _________________ Alex
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69823 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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If you are having trouble getting the screws out that hold the halves together, I drill out the heads.
I put the whole window in a vice with a thick towel around it just so it doesn't move, then drill a tiny pilot-type hole in the center of each head, then move up to a drill bit that is a little bit smaller than the head of the screw. Drill just enough so the head comes off but it doesn't mess up the frame.
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twinwindows Samba Pimp
Joined: December 08, 2000 Posts: 4086 Location: So.Cal. Highland Park GFK!
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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I done a few of these, When I take them apart and they become stubborn to the point where you end up messing up the area where the little screws go I replace the whole pop out frame depending on witch side is bad. Fixing these ends without having it to be noticeable can be difficult. _________________ CRG
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69823 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Separating frames |
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gonzos_VW wrote: |
I just started restoring Scarlet, my 61. I am having a hard time just separating the frames, I already broke one window. Any suggestions. |
I haven't done that many but spray rust breaker and run a razor blade down the channel where the glass goes into the frame. This can loosen up the pressure the seal puts on the glass and allow the frame to come apart easier.
Try to take it apart when you have it laying flat on a work bench so you make sure you are not twisting anything, causing it to crack. _________________ How to Post Photos
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Z Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2003 Posts: 2517 Location: galveston, tx
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:37 am Post subject: |
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redbug64 wrote: |
Also, i've seen some bus' with the front two popouts opening forward.. is this stock? Anyone have trouble with windows ripping off while driving? |
Opening to the front is stock. Typical bus speeds should not cause any window rippage, unless the attachment points are really rusty and weak. |
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gonzos_VW Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2010 Posts: 54 Location: OAHU, HAWAII
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:17 am Post subject: Separating frames |
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I just started restoring Scarlet, my 61. I am having a hard time just separating the frames, I already broke one window. Any suggestions. |
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EDragnDean Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2005 Posts: 1148 Location: Vancouver, WA
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BUGTHUG Samba's Rented Mule
Joined: April 22, 2007 Posts: 833 Location: KANSAS toto's fire hydrant
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Not to open a can of worms, but I was wondering about the use of silicone on rubber parts and the possible premature break down of the rubber seal? Would it be possible to use baby powder?
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EDragnDean Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2005 Posts: 1148 Location: Vancouver, WA
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mr white Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2005 Posts: 1193 Location: beautiful Oregon & Mohave County, AZ
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Sir, this is a good thread. Thank you for taking the time to post these details. I have a few questions. Did you use any left hand drill bits(extractors)on the frame screws under the seals? Did you use any metric drill bits? Thanks again for the post. |
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MrBusCo Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2007 Posts: 1561 Location: stoughton, WI
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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What I did was install the hinge on the popout, and install the popout latch to the bus and the popout. open the latch, and position the window so it is in the popout position and place the hinge where you think it should be. you can kinda half way close the window so you get an idea of how the rubber is gonna hit. I scribed the edge, opened the window, and tack welded it. made sure everything lined up and closed right and then finished up the weld, ground/finished it up with the window off. _________________ Josh The Bus Guy formerly known as JOGR
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redbug64 Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2005 Posts: 513 Location: Fairfax/Essex, Vermont
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah x2 on the placement of the hinge (in and out, up and down) where it welds to the van and how about a measurement of the hinge itself? How wide is it when its closed/open? I have some stuff at work i may be able to snag for my bus and i want to make sure its going to work.
Also, i've seen some bus' with the front two popouts opening forward.. is this stock? Anyone have trouble with windows ripping off while driving? _________________ Jason Arms
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deepseeman Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2004 Posts: 435 Location: san diego
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:59 am Post subject: |
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any measurements for the hinge placement? or any tips and tricks to get them right? i tried installing mine twice and it still isnt correct. _________________ in the barn:
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EDragnDean Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2005 Posts: 1148 Location: Vancouver, WA
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EDragnDean Samba Member
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nevercme Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Super Hot Arizona
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Big Thanks! |
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Frisbee Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Alexandria, AL
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for shearing this this! this will help me alot in my pop out restorations.. i had no clue what to do with them. mine are pretty pitted but i think i might be able to blast them smooth. hopefully mine will come out looken as good as yours.
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EDragnDean Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2005 Posts: 1148 Location: Vancouver, WA
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Dave24 Samba Hack Purist
Joined: April 14, 2004 Posts: 7442 Location: Hablamos Ingles, So. Cal.
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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darkburst wrote: |
One tip...DON"T powder coat!
It is too thick and you can see all the trouble it creates.
I restored my frames and just painted them. They slid
together easy as pie and no need for the contraption
to squeeze them together. Think of all that stress on
those little screws now as well...
The bad outweighs the good when you powder coat. |
BS. I powdercoated, then scuffed and sprayed with glasurit line 22 s/s in b/w. tThere was no fitment problems. NONE. |
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Eric, Paris Samba Member
Joined: December 20, 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Nice job, could you also tell the outer frame seal side? flat facing in or out? |
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