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74superTN
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 Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: Autostick starter in a manual tranny? |
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So i keep reading people saying "Just put a autostick starter in it!" but they never say if you have to change anything else...
I have a 1600 cc engine, original starter just died on me and i'm having a big PITA with my starter bushing coming out..I've already bought my new starter from autozone but its for an manual tranny because thats what I have..Does a autostick starter work the same? Can i just leave the bushing in if I install the autostick starter?
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bugninva
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yeah, the autostick starter is "self-supporting" meaning it's housing extends to the other end of the starter shaft... there is no need for the bushing....
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texasbuggy's
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| If ya use one, just knock out the old bushing. |
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DrDarby
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You don't need to touch the bushing the auto stick starter has nothing to do with it.
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74superTN
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so the autostick starter will fit right in with the bushing still installed?
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DrDarby
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Absolutely. I routenely install an A/S starter whenever replacing a starter and use them exclusively on conversions
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| bugninva wrote: |
| yeah, the autostick starter is "self-supporting" meaning it's housing extends to the other end of the starter shaft... there is no need for the bushing.... |
Here is what one looks like...
And here is the stock style that needs the bushing... don't mind the chewed up gear LOL 
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| You don't need to touch the bushing the auto stick starter has nothing to do with it. |
Yessirie.... the autostick starter never comes in contact with where the bushing is...
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74superTN
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ok so i replaced it...was your autostick starter way louder than the manual starter? mine's freakin loud!
Also...think a battery could die in about 5 months if all I've been doing is trying to start my bug with no progress made..meaning, she doesnt run for longer than a few seconds
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| The autostick starter also has slightly more torque than a manual starter. It is a good cenversion for the bigger engines with more compression than stock, and cheaper than a high torque starter. |
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| The autostick starter also has slightly more torque than a manual starter. It is a good cenversion for the bigger engines with more compression than stock, and cheaper than a high torque starter. |
Not that much cheaper these days. And the IMI has double the torque and a lot less weight.
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| I too am reading about autostick starters. I have a '67, manual. Do I simple buy a autostick starter for lets say...a '68 auto. and it will bolt right in and work without any problems? |
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Yes, it really is THAT simple.
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bon2198
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yeah, now that i think about it when i went to buy a new starter for my 70 the guy at Advanced never asked about what tranny i have. but the new starter came with a new bushing so i'm assuming the starter i have is for a manual. but reading this post the starter i have in there now is a whole lot louder and more torque than the original i had. but than again the original died. but my bug starts better than ever before!!!!
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| ... Also...think a battery could die in about 5 months if all I've been doing is trying to start my bug with no progress made..meaning, she doesnt run for longer than a few seconds |
If you can't get the charging system going for more than a few seconds at a time your battery will eventually die.
The primary function of the battery is to hold a charge so you can crank the engine. Once the engine is running the charging system takes over and provides most of the electricity for the car and "replenishes" the lost charge used to crank the starter. The starter load is the biggest power drain on the battery, well ahead of the wiper motor, horn and headlight on most cars.
You must have a pretty good battery to go 5 months w/o a charge before she died.
Note: "running down" the battery and recharging it will eventually "wear out" most batteries, reducing their ability to hold a charge.
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wvmedic
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| What is up with the autostick starter being "louder" than the starter for a manual? Is this a problem? Of course you only hear it when starting the vehicle...right? |
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wanta60sbug
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject: autostick starter |
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| OK, I have a 64 bus, So do I ask for a 68 bug autostick Bosch starter at Advance auto parts |
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ashman40
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The '68 starter was meant to mate with a 200mm flywheel/flexplate. Does your '64 bus have a 180mm or 200mm flywheel (sorry I don't know which year the type 2 switched to 200mm)? The teeth are different between the two flywheels.
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supermanbidder
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| Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: What year for 74 bellhousing |
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What year autostick starters fit my type 1 74 bellhousing .?
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| Autostick starters from '68 and up is what you need. |
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| Yup just bought a bosch thanks |
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