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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where I can find this part to get the negative camber? :oops:

Thanks in advance!


I don't believe they're available anywhere. You would have to cut and weld a set of trailing arms. And I wish I could provide more information such as measurements, but I did not personally build them.

If you don't need as much camber, you can get the extra eccentric adjusters, and that should get you about one degree. Of you could also dimple a set of bottom torsion springs further to the outside, so that the lower arms stick out of the beam a bit at the bottom.


I usually buy in cip1 and cb, but I can not find the extra eccentric adjusters there.

Thanks for your replay Oto


Here they are:
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http://www.machine7.com/product.php?xProd=794



I just want to mention that these are only for a ball joint beam, not an early link pin beam. Link pin is a little harder to get camber out of.


I was thinking they are oversize... Thanks for the help!


Be careful! Sorry, I edited my earlier post, because I don't think the CIP listing is the EXTRA eccentric adjuster. I think it's just the OEM style. Aircooled.net does have them, along with many others. I believe both Bugpack and Empi have them available.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This bug is awesome!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Be careful! Sorry, I edited my earlier post, because I don't think the CIP listing is the EXTRA eccentric adjuster. I think it's just the OEM style. Aircooled.net does have them, along with many others. I believe both Bugpack and Empi have them available.


OTO X58 is right. Many suppliers sell the stock style adjusters.

I have the offset version which came from my local bug shop, they were made by Bugpack

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Here is an oe version. notice the hole is not as close to the edge. Be sure to check this on the tapered end, not the next end.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great update Thomas. Glad to hear you're recovering well.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bring it North for a http://eescc.org/EESCC2013Schedule.cfm hill climb or autocross some day. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Replacement engine is installed:

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I hope it runs! hahaha
I found this one on Craigslist here in town, for $100.... so it's more than iffy.


I'll post more progress this weekend, hopefully with some progress on the turbo header built and the Accusump mounted.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tons of update pictures from this weekend!

Jeff built a turbo header for my bug this weekend. By the end of next weekend, the exhaust and charge pipe will be done.

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Up on the lift at 40thirteen, getting some real work done!


First step, make some flanges for the heads, and for the turbo inlet:


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man this such a F'n wild ass car. I love lookin back at this thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next, he positioned the turbo, using about a thousand zipties. We wanted to put it approximately where it was going to hang, so that we could plan out where everything will have to go (exhaust, charge pipe, oil lines, etc..)



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Unfortunately, I did end up trimming the H apron a bit. I didn't really want to do this, but since the apron is really hammered from some past accidents, and since it won't be visible from the top side, I didn't mind.

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I wanted to end up with the 3" tip sticking out of one of the exhaust cutouts. And it just turns out that the other cutout will show the wastegate rod on the turbo. That wasn't really the plan from the beginning, but now that it's done I love it! haha

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, here's the good part!!

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(back filling the tubing with welding gas, to get a cleaner and stronger weld! that clear hose was coming from the bottle, the tape and foil were used to seal the tubing)

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As it will sit this week, waiting for the turbo installation to be done this coming weekend:

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And I just love this picture so much, that I am going to go back with my good camera to get a better high-resolution shot:
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is awesome. Every time I check back I am surprised by the turn the beetle has taken. Well done
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice work!


hell yeah, nice work!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an insane job. Great work.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vaughn bros. wrote:
Man this such a F'n wild ass car. I love lookin back at this thread.


thatdirtykid wrote:
This thread is awesome. Every time I check back I am surprised by the turn the beetle has taken. Well done


chickengeorge wrote:
Nice work!


gostros wrote:
chickengeorge wrote:
Nice work!


hell yeah, nice work!


jon65 wrote:
That's an insane job. Great work.


Thanks everyone!!! I am genuinely glad you're enjoying the thread. Even with the budget restrictions keeping me from doing everything I want to do, I'm definitely enjoying building the car. The positive comments really help, especially when things break or go wrong and I get a little discouraged.

Jeff does amazing work. He's built so many amazing things that they just sort of effortlessly roll off his hands now. If you ever get a chance to have him work on your car, I encourage you to hang out and watch him work. I'll keep taking too many pictures, to help share that experience.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The exhaust is almost done!

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Check this out, Jeff makes his own V-Band exhaust clamp o-rings, out of aluminum welding rod:
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He basically just twists the rod around a pipe of the same diameter, cuts it to length, then welds the ends to make a ring. This saves a ton of cash over buying fancypants v-band clamps and gaskets. All of this stainless, including the clamps, is bought from a local Stainless Distributor that sells mostly to the food and dairy industry. The guys at the distributor always look at us a little funny when we drive up in loud turbo cars instead of beat up work trucks. LOL

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This coming weekend, we should have it up and running. Jeff still needs to make the charge pipe going up to the throttle body, and the intake pipe going to the air filter. I need to figure out where that Accusump is going to be mounted, and get all the proper fittings and oil lines.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's beautiful. You guys are dangerous.
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It's beautiful. You guys are dangerous.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Done and running! It smelled great, with a fresh tank of E85. Unfortunately, one of my used STI injectors is faulty, so I need to find another set before I can drive it and street tune it. But at least I got to hear it come to life!


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Because the turbo is so close to the plastic, I added an aluminum heat shield to the timing belt cover. The apron might burn a little too, but I'm OK with that right now. It'll just add to the fauxtina!


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It's kind of hard to see in the picture, but there is an exhaust hanger at the back of the muffler. It is set up so that once the V-band clamp is taken off, the hanger rod can slide out of the mount, so that the exhaust is really easy to take off with no nuts and bolts!

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The added ground clearance will be awesome. I didn't put the exhaust tip through the apron cutout as I had originally planned, because of the air cleaner placement.

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