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motofly196 Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1467 Location: Eastern WA
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: Rear brake oil slingers...??? |
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I've been going through all the brakes, replacing everything on my 62'. I've only run into a slight glitch... I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to get those darn oil slingers back into the new brake drums. Does anybody have any pictures of them installed on the drum? Thanks in advance!!
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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It's pretty simple, the snout goes into the little hole out near the corner of the drum and the tob folds over the hole in the face of the drum. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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motofly196 Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1467 Location: Eastern WA
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
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I figured it'd be easy too....but it doesn't want to line up...the hole in the new drum is alot smaller than the old drums. Is this a common problem with aftermarket stuff? I didn't want to start drilling on the new one without checking here. These are the good "german" ones....thanks!
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26315 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Whenever I've put slingers into new drums, I've had to drill the exit hole for the slinger myself. I had to do it with the German drums I put on my 62 in the mid 1990s. (Then a few years later I put a later rear end in there that uses the weep-hole style... no more slingers)
Anyway, you wanted a pic, I'd seen one in the Gallery a while back, and here it is:
-Andy
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zabo Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2005 Posts: 1195 Location: ATL
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: |
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big probs if you dont use the slingers?
I have some new drums but no holes _________________ 1960 6 volt sedan- 1978 adventurewagen
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 25187 Location: Central Iowa
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: |
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without the slings, and the old style bearing retainers, if there is a seal leak, the grease will get on the brake shoes. _________________ Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
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OvalWindowBucket Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2003 Posts: 694 Location: Reviving my Microbus
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: |
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What if im using old oval bearing caps with weep hole backing plates? I was told i wouldnt need slingers.. True? |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26315 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: |
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The bearing caps are designed to work with the backing plates. They have a metal washer that does the "slinging" in the bearing cap, which then drains out the weephole. You have to have that kind of cap and that washer between it and the seal for it to work. |
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OvalWindowBucket Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2003 Posts: 694 Location: Reviving my Microbus
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: |
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I used the washer from the axle seal kit, is this what youre talking about? I am using 58-64 rear brakes with oval axle tubes and bearing caps.. |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26315 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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No, the slinger (deflector) washer is not in the seal kit, you have to reuse the old one. (#13)
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motofly196 Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1467 Location: Eastern WA
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the pics and replies! Maybe I'm thinking this through too much!! I have the holes in the drums for the clip to slide into...but where does the end of the tube go? It doesn't exit the drum, so the gear oil won't get onto the brake lining should there be a leak?
In the pictures (never thought of looking in the gallery, thanks!) it looks like the tube on the slinger just sits inside the brake drum?? Is this correct? Thanks!
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glutamodo The Android
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, the tube for the slinger is in the rim of the drum, and the hole goes all the way through the drum. Any oil that makes it that far gets slung onto the rim. Again, from the Gallery - this is of an early type 3 drum but it shows the slinger hole:
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OvalWindowBucket Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2003 Posts: 694 Location: Reviving my Microbus
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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glutamodo wrote: |
No, the slinger (deflector) washer is not in the seal kit, you have to reuse the old one. (#13)
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ok thanks ill have to find the oil slingers for the drum then i guess with my combo of cap and backing plate |
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motofly196 Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1467 Location: Eastern WA
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Ewww wee...I don't like the idea of drilling into those new drums!!! But...I'm pretty anal, and if I don't do it now, that's all I'll be thinking of as I drive it around!! Thanks for the pics, I didn't see that one in the gallery.
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5600 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:19 am Post subject: |
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glutamodo wrote: |
Yeah, the tube for the slinger is in the rim of the drum, and the hole goes all the way through the drum. Any oil that makes it that far gets slung onto the rim. Again, from the Gallery - this is of an early type 3 drum but it shows the slinger hole:
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I have one of those holes in my drums, I thought it was for seeing how much drum thickness is left. |
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zabo Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2005 Posts: 1195 Location: ATL
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:40 am Post subject: |
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is it ok to drill drums yourself? Just wondering if it would weaken them or anything _________________ 1960 6 volt sedan- 1978 adventurewagen
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26315 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: |
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I never had any issues with the ones I drilled. |
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zabo Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2005 Posts: 1195 Location: ATL
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: |
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what size hole is needed for the oil slingers? _________________ 1960 6 volt sedan- 1978 adventurewagen
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 25187 Location: Central Iowa
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Slightly bigger than the tube.
I dont have one in front of me to measure. _________________ Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
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zabo Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2005 Posts: 1195 Location: ATL
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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8mm seems to work
now tht i got them in im having trouble getting the drum back on, the slinger binds on the axle so when i turn the drum to get the splines to line up the axle is turning also. with old drum it goes on easy- must have something off... _________________ 1960 6 volt sedan- 1978 adventurewagen
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