Spark Plug Wires that fit.

Max Welton · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: Spark Plug Wires that fit.

Need some. Laughing

The ones I bought from the local aircooled parts place a while back for the square do have 90º boots on the distributor end but the wire inside is just the same old straight wire. So they don't fit very well on the type-3. And the lengths aren't letting me get nice routing, particularly from the #3 plug.

So I want to make my own. Does anybody know of a contemporary source for plug wire and ends?

Long ago, when the earth was flat and we were still young and immortal, I worked at a little service station in Vermont. We had rolls of spark plug wire and a stock of all sorts of different ends. For pretty much anything that came in, we would just pick the right ends and cut the wire to the required length. We could get it all nice and neat looking.

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Russ Wolfe · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject:

Tell them you need some wire for your ford tractor. Then maybe you can get some solid wire.
The spark plug ends can be purchased at about any aircooled supply place.
The 90 ends for the distributor are another story.

BTW, something I noticed the last set of Bosch wires, I installed. The coil wire was a carbon core, not solid wire.
I reused the old coil wire.
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Bobnotch · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:07 am Post subject:

I got 10 ft of spark plug wire from Jim Adney at the Invasion. He sells the wire if you have the ends. It was enough to do the job, and let me route them like I wanted.
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Max Welton · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject:

Looks like Summit has all the bits I need. Very Happy

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+115+-123272&D=-123272

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MOCHABILL · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject:

Bought this set recently,made by BOSCH with metal wires,molded caps.

09004 Type 3 Spark Plug Wires 1 $29.95

From this site, [email protected]

tomnotch · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject:

Pretty sure those are the ones that I also used. really great wires and they fit really well after I put the longer T4 ends on them..

oh, yeah T4 Shocked

Russ Wolfe · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject:

Max Welton · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject:

Well, I gotta ask. Why do I want copper core and not carbon core?

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KTPhil · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject:

Carbon degrades and breaks when bent, increasing resistance and causing misfires and fouling. Copper inside of silicone lasts forever!

Russ Wolfe · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:01 am Post subject:

And, with Bosch wires, you can replace just the bad ends if needed.
I have bought Bosch wires lately, and they have fit properly.
Only problem is, if you have an early car, the coil wire is not long enough to reach the coil mounted on the other side.
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Max Welton · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:54 am Post subject:

Sounds reasonable. Thanks!

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Dramaguy · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:19 pm Post subject: Re:

I bought these wires from cip1 and they don't fit at all the wire for the coil is not even long enough to fit. Waste of money.

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BOS-09004
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Russ Wolfe · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:27 pm Post subject:

There are 2 different sets of plug wires sold for T-3 from Bosch.
09 003 for the 62 through 66/67.
09 004 for the 68 through 73.

If also depends on how your distributor cap is wired. If the cap is wired properly, the wires just reach on a type 3.
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PIMPPRIDE · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject:

we send everyone the 09004 unless they request the set with short coil

but we have them all, right here on samba, including type 4 sets...

Anthony / ISP WEST

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=601965

JSMskater · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject:

question: are the wires stamped with what kind of core they have inside?
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Russ Wolfe · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject:

You just look at them. If the ends screw on, they are probably copper core. If the wires don't say Bosch on them, they are probably not copper core.
Even now, the coil wires that come in the Bosch kits is carbon core.
I rarely if ever replace the original Bosch wires. Just replace the ends, as needed.
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orbittron · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject:

I've got to chime in on this one....

I too recently bought the "original German quality" type 3 wires from cip1. They are crap; didn't fit #3 or coil and the insulation feels like hard cheap plastic. Don't waste your $$. Embarassed

mfnheff · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject:

i still don't understand why anyone would want to run a high resistance, factory style wire. and with those factory screw-on boots? don't those have a bout 1000ohms of resistance? i bought a set of cheapo accel wires and cut them myself, and it made a running engine run so much better. i was told some folks use those factory screwon ends because of am radio interference...but then i was wondering who the hell listens to am radio, and copper core wires with around 500ohms per foot don't cause enough rf frequency to actually bothering anyone, not to mention less resisitance means hotter spark, which means more fuel burnt, which means better combustion, which means more power, and better mpg.
unless all i've learned about automotive ignition systems doesn't apply to aircooled volksawagens, which would mean they're running on a totally new ignition system no one has heard about
so if anyone wants my screw on terminals, i'll send them to ya. i don't want them to waste space in a landfill somewhere, which is where they're going

Russ Wolfe · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject:

Copper core wires dont have any resistance. Only the ends do. And those can be replaced if needed.
VW wires are not high resistance. They are 1000 ohms per wire, and 3000 ohms for the rotor. Most carbon core wires are higher than that. (and FCC rules say that you have to have some type of suppression)
I have seen more bad carbon core wires than bad resistance ends.
As for listening to AM radio, many original T-3's only have AM radio. Besides, If I want to listen to music, I listen to my iPod.
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