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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Looking for BN4 glow spark plug '411 963 319' part Reply with quote

Howdy Volks:

Finally got up the courage to install the BN4 heater that came with my Thing in a box when I bought it 15 years ago. Shocked
Ian Epperson, of VeeWiki, came over today and helped me get my `73 Eberspaecher heater going but it needs a glow spark plug 411 963 319. I had to borrow his to get it working...
Surprise is it works great and it did not blow up and sing my jewels... Shocked Happy me... Very Happy
Of all the parts not working, it's such a simple item, but does not spark at all. No clue why, it looks very clean and undamaged.
If any of you folks have a nice extra one laying around I would like to buy it.
Secondarily I am also looking for a warm air vent - footwell "181 819 189 B".
The one that shoots into the cabin area behind the ashtray.

Thanks:

http://veewiki2.webfactional.com/JeffGilleland

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check with Marty. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9870
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for BN4 glow spark plug '411 963 319' part Reply with quote

Solomon Grundy wrote:
Secondarily I am also looking for a warm air vent - footwell "181 819 189 B".
The one that shoots into the cabin area behind the ashtray.

Looks like German Motor Works has that one:
http://www.thingsforthething.com/catalog/index.php...qd5k1a04u5
only $18 new, and 6 in stock.

Oh, and looky what else they have:
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http://www.thingsforthething.com/catalog/index.php...cts_id=136

EDIT: Oops, looks like they don't actually have it: "0 Units in Stock"

...no price listed for their one thermostat and timer switch...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

German Supply has the glow plug:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=16586&cat=376&page=1

Out of stock of the exhaust gasket:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=17575&cat=376&page=3
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have both of those Used, in good condition.
I'll send the part, then you send payment.
I also have gas heater manuals.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike: I will get back to you in a few days if I can't get OEM or NOS parts.

Ian: This one is for you... Should I ask when I call them? Wink
http://www.thingsforthething.com/catalog/index.php...qd5k1a04u5

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=364938
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Epperson wrote:
German Supply has the glow plug:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=16586&cat=376&page=1

Out of stock of the exhaust gasket:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=17575&cat=376&page=3


Damn, $60 for a spark plug? OUch.

Why are you using a 2 pole plug btw?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about the 2nd tab on the side of the plug? I'm not sure what it's for - I assume it's just the same as the tab on the other side.

Or are you asking why there's a center conductor along with a side tab? Well, it's a spark-glow plug. The side tab heats up a coil in the plug which (I think) vaporizes the fuel as it squirts into the chamber, then the center conductor fires a high-voltage charge a few times per second to spark the center of the plug and ignite the fuel. A bit after it lights, I believe that it stops sparking and just uses the heat side of the plug to keep vaporizing the fuel.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BN4 in my thing has a single pole. The one you show has a second that is a ground.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crofty wrote:
The BN4 in my thing has a single pole.


I think that the spark plug in your Thing is a BERU GZE 16 (one single pole)

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The one you show has a second that is a ground.


The one in the picture maybe is a BERU GZE 13 (two poles).

You can use a BERU GZE 13 in a BN4 heater.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crofty wrote:
Ian Epperson wrote:
German Supply has the glow plug:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=16586&cat=376&page=1

Out of stock of the exhaust gasket:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=17575&cat=376&page=3




Damn, $60 for a spark plug? OUch.

Why are you using a 2 pole plug btw?


That plug is for the BA6 heater. The poles are:
lower one is a ground,
upper one is the power connection for the glow plug portion
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plug for BA6 heater is sold here :
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=16614&cat=376&page=3

It has 2 poles too, but it is not the same picture.

The BERU GZE 13 looks like this :

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"GZE13" is engraved on one side.

I have one in my BN4 heater, and I have sold some of these with the pink insulator, others with the white insulator.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dan macmillan wrote:
crofty wrote:
Ian Epperson wrote:
German Supply has the glow plug:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=16586&cat=376&page=1

Out of stock of the exhaust gasket:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=17575&cat=376&page=3




Damn, $60 for a spark plug? OUch.

Why are you using a 2 pole plug btw?


That plug is for the BA6 heater. The poles are:
lower one is a ground,
upper one is the power connection for the glow plug portion


crofty wrote:
The BN4 in my thing has a single pole. The one you show has a second that is a ground.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello

I know a source for NEW plugs :

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Identical to BERU GZE 16 (the genuine one, with one single pole).

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjmacua wrote:
I know a source for NEW plugs


So Pierre, can you tell us what your source is, or are you just taunting us? Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we keeping this a secret? I need one too!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price is 40 euros (each).

For more information : http://www.181spirit.com/portail_phpBB/index.php?page=4

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

40.00 EUR = 53.8119 USD
http://www.xe.com/
Plus unknown shipping costs.
Better be checking out the domestic US/Canadian sources for this part.
Either way, it's a hard swallow............gulp.........svp.......... Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ztnoo wrote:
40.00 EUR = 53.8119 USD
http://www.xe.com/
Plus unknown shipping costs.
Better be checking out the domestic US/Canadian sources for this part.
Either way, it's a hard swallow............gulp.........svp.......... Shocked


I never said that they were cheap.

Shipping cost depends on the services (insurance, tracking number, express or priority,...) and it starts at 5 euros for other european countries and 6 euros for USA.

Ztnoo, check out your other sources for a NEW single pole BERU GZE 16 plug and let us know.

And if you find other hard to find parts at a cheap price (NOS dual air cleaner system, NOS 74 right mirror, NOS parts for the limited slip diffs,...), let us know too.

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