F.Y.I. short Type 1 swing axle's in a type 3

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I have a type 3 swing axle that is 4 bolt with hubs. and I would like to use the type 3 4 bolt hubs/brakes.

So I need to find:

61-6? beetle axles, tubes, and end castings (with bearings, spacers etc)
65-66 only bearing covers AND spacers?

Then I use the beetle axles
inside the type 3 axle tubes
With the type 1 end castings
using the bearings and bearing covers from
65-66 type 1
as well as type 1 axle spacers (which set of spacers: the 61-6?, or the 65-66only?)
and then button it up with
type 3 backing plates
hubs (machined 0.625" ???)
and the type 3 drums

Anyone help me see this perfectly clear? Thanks guys!

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jim altemus · Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:39 am Post subject:

So I need to find:

61-6? beetle axles, tubes, and end castings - Yes, these are also available new from CB Performance, among other places
(with bearings, spacers etc) - bearings and spacers are universal
65-66 only bearing covers AND spacers? - Yes, the bearing doesn't go as far into the early end casting. the '65-'66 only bearing cover addresses this. Reuse your Type 3 spacers

Then I use the beetle axles - Yes
inside the type 3 axle tubes - You can do it this way if your Type 3 tubes are good (mine weren't.
With the type 1 end castings - Yes
using the bearings and bearing covers from 65-66 type 1, as well as type 1 axle spacers (which set of spacers: the 61-6?, or the 65-66only?) - As stated above, the bearing covers are '65-'66 specific only. The rest of the parts (bearings, spacers) are universal
and then button it up with
type 3 backing plates - Yes
hubs (machined 0.625" ???) - At least. I would consider going as far as .6875"
and the type 3 drums - Along with shoes, hardware, wheel cylinders,etc.
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Jim, you are a true pal!

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EverettB · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:08 pm Post subject:

I would say yes, although I have never removed the axles with the transmission in place.
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PIMPPRIDE · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:23 pm Post subject:

its a bitch to do in the car... especially a driver that is dirty & greasy... I've done it... by unbolting the mounts and getting a jack under in place with some pressure, your giving yourself a little more room to work with the axle tube bell ends that mount to the side cover

once you pull the axles... usually the fulcrum plates are going to move around...

if it was me doing it again, I'd stop trying to save time and just pull the motor & trans

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RHD Notch · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:45 pm Post subject:

Thanks Everett & Anthony. I'm going to make one more attempt at doing it while installed...I guess I could also remove the two larger bolts that hold the crossmember to the frame horns so long as the jack was under it. If I start to feel like I'm going to pop a vessel I'll step back take a deep breath and pull everything Crying or Very sad

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DONGKG · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:48 pm Post subject:

That is a cool idea. For sure that short axle will truly look cool on type 3's. Keep it coming..
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jim altemus · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:25 am Post subject:

RHD Notch

junk34 · Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:42 am Post subject:

Hey everyone! Quick question, would I run into any trouble if I ran a short axle swap, AND a 2" trans raise?
Thanks

IAMIROY · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject:

Quick question. To convert a '63 wide five to 4 lug with shortened axles, I would do all the above but change the backing plates, drums, and all other brakes parts?

vic · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:08 am Post subject:

Does anyone have the part number for the 65-66 bearing caps? I'm in the middle of this conversion and I want to get the right ones..
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vic · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:05 pm Post subject:

Sweet, thanks, look like I have everything I need for this job, busy day tomorrow!
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vic · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:56 pm Post subject:

flyinglow94 · Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:42 am Post subject:

ballbag · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject:

Great thread Very Happy

I was just going to go for it anyway but, a little research does no harm , thanks fellas.
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