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BWD Samba Mailman
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Andy, You just helped me get my odometer to read 1 mile!
Can't say thanks enough! _________________ BWD
JHC
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BWD Samba Mailman
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I was all happy THEN, until I tried to take off the needle to clean up, it was grungy, I don't really need to finish the story... _________________ BWD
JHC
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1966 Beetle
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26302 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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AH well, that can be playing with fire. Been there! |
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KillerTux Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 434 Location: Odenton, MD
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Digging this thread up, I just got a NOS speedometer and I was wondering do I put grease on the end of the speedometer cable that goes into the speedometer? _________________ 1964 Beetle Convertible |
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Hammarlund Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 1539 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Sticky.
Thanks, Andy. _________________ Trying to diagnose electrical problems without paying attention to what the red light is telling you is like trying to play the piano without using your hands. |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26302 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:30 am Post subject: |
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The manuals do not mention any lubrication of the cable end where it goes into the speedometer head. It's a solid drive connection.
Actually, with an NOS speedometer head, the factory lubrication might be gummed up a bit from age - it might be worth your while to do as I've mentioned before, point the input shaft up and fill that up with some decent spray lube - I like to use ones with PTFE in them like TriFlow or Liquid Wrench non-flammable - and let it sit for a bit. Then let it drain out, there will be a little residual there where the cable goes in, that's OK.
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CLASSIC CAR GUY Transport and Title Guru
Joined: August 09, 2010 Posts: 1608 Location: Phoenix AZ, but originally from Long Island NY
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:07 am Post subject: |
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I found that, as expected, the splines weren't right to allow the needle calibration to be the same as before. So I took the brass bushing off and repositioned it. Same thing. Grrr. Decided to give up and write this post instead. |
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Hope that was helpful for someone out there!
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I know this is an old thread but great job Andy, one question though?
After all that work and detail why did you give up tring to get it right in the end for calibration or needle alignment?, or did you finally figure it out later?, just curious, I have a speedo that has a whine in it and I wanted to open it up and try to repair it before replacing it just to see if i could, thanks _________________ (0\!/0)
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johnnypan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 7431 Location: sackamenna
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Di-electric grease works good as a speedo lubricant,its clean, clear and resists corrosion... |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26302 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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CLASSIC CAR GUY wrote: |
After all that work and detail why did you give up tring to get it right in the end for calibration or needle alignment?, or did you finally figure it out later?, just curious, |
I never went back to it because I'm not using it. I took that apart entirely for to take pictures of the process. I've not needed to use it, but if at some point I DO decide to use it, it'll probably be in my 62. And if I do that, I will take it apart and set the odometer to match the one that's in the car. At that time I'd go and try to get the calibration to match the old one as well.
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CLASSIC CAR GUY Transport and Title Guru
Joined: August 09, 2010 Posts: 1608 Location: Phoenix AZ, but originally from Long Island NY
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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glutamodo wrote: |
CLASSIC CAR GUY wrote: |
After all that work and detail why did you give up tring to get it right in the end for calibration or needle alignment?, or did you finally figure it out later?, just curious, |
I never went back to it because I'm not using it. I took that apart entirely for to take pictures of the process. I've not needed to use it, but if at some point I DO decide to use it, it'll probably be in my 62. And if I do that, I will take it apart and set the odometer to match the one that's in the car. At that time I'd go and try to get the calibration to match the old one as well.
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thanks Andy I know this was an old thread just was wondering if you ever completed it, thanks again for the info _________________ (0\!/0)
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BGLOCOTE Samba Member
Joined: April 25, 2011 Posts: 114 Location: WA
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Wow this post was perfect fixed my speedo! Now I'm really almost ready for the road. _________________ 1955 TYPE 1 Under Construction
1962 TYPE 1 SOLD
Looking for 54-55 TYPE 1 finger tin.
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Motomazzo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2009 Posts: 792 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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May be a stupid question.....
There was no seal when I took my '66 speedo apart. Is there supposed to be a seal? I checked on WW website and their part description for the years and type of speedo is a little confusing.
Thanks in advance!
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kjbtsi Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2007 Posts: 390 Location: Amarillo, TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Sweet now I can get the speedo in my '66 working good. _________________ "Dammit, every time we have a sweet idea the government has to come and screw it up"-Kyle Broflowski
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DrHAX Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2011 Posts: 247 Location: Isanti MN
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:01 pm Post subject: Thank you so much |
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Thank you! This helped me so much, it allowed me to completely rebuild my 1968's original speedometer... granted the needle broke the moment I opened up the bezel, though luckily I had a spare mexi bug speedo in garage that I used for parts, Though I must say that spline was a pain in the arse to get off I had to use a hammer to get enough leverage on it... So now I have a custom 1968, cleaned, sparkling pretty much new speedo! _________________ Signed by the rather insane, ambitious, and very stubborn Darko |
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'69Custom Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2008 Posts: 2497 Location: Ventura, California
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a thought I just had on reinstalling the needle and bushing to regain proper alignment: how about installing the needle on the bushing first so you can use the needle point to aim where it needs to be while reinserting the bushing on the shaft?
Motomazzo, there is typically a seal between speedometer and dash, then two more inside the bezel. _________________ -Tim
1969 Frankenbug
1965 Ford Mustang
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54 Oval Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2012 Posts: 91 Location: Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:50 am Post subject: Incredible help for speedo issues |
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Thank you, thank you, thank you, Andy! |
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carl berry Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2011 Posts: 1 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject: Non working 'tripmeter' |
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The km calibrated speedo has a push button reset tripmeter that isn't working...any suggestions?
Thanks '58VS replica |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26302 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Here I am two months later and only now noticing this last question.
The trip-meter speedometers are somewhat different inside- I've only ever looked at the insides of one once, and that was years before I had a digital camera to document the internals. So I'm sad to say... can't be of much help on those.
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Brassneck Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2012 Posts: 420 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: Jammed Speedometer? |
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Hi guys,
I just stumbled upon this thread--awesome details! Thank you SAMBA members for such great info!
OK, so I hope someone can offer some advise.
My speedo needle was jumping a bit and I heard the tell-tale sound of the cable buzzing...but before I could get to the cable to lube it (was driving down the highway) I heard a "snap" and then no more speedo. (Note: the odometer wasn't working at all previously...I bought it that way and haven't had a chance to address it)
I happen to have a spare speedo cable, and assumed the current one had broken...so before pulling the old one completely off, I simply disconnected it from the back of the unit and connected the new one-- and then tried to manually turn the cable to see if the needle moved...but nope it won't budge. It's clearly not stripped as that would mean the cable would turn, correct? But I can't get the cable to budge. Thus, I think I have a jammed up/locked up speedometer. I'm not looking forward to pulling the speedometer out, but will do so if I have to. However, I am wondering:
A) Could I simply spray some liquid wrench into where the cable end goes on the back of the unit? Or would that mess anything up.
B) If I do indeed need to dismantle the whole assembly, do I need to deal with the face plate/needle, etc...or can I get to the gears without messing with them? (I'm trying to avoid breaking anything and the face/gels look great already so I don't intend on changing them out)
Thanks for any help on this. |
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glutamodo The Android
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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If you take the speedometer out and point the input shaft straight up and spray some lubricant in there, you might be able to free it up. Depends on why it seized though - it's got to be either the lubricant on that input shaft bushing is gunked up or the odometer worm gear jammed up.
You can take the input shaft half of the speedometer apart without messing with the faceplate/needle half. |
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