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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13952 Location: Southampton U.K.
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GHIA Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2005 Posts: 345 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Part list 61
M154 for 141 and 144 --> Air correction jet 170
On birth certificat december 1962
M194 additional mirror outside convex
M559 upholstery materiel coelin blue whit leatherette ice blue (with L360 sea blue)
On birth certificat august 1960
M560 upholstery materiel leatherette combinaison black/green (with L384 Pampas green)
on birth certificat may 1958
M578 top sand beige (with L87 pearl white convertible)
M598 upholstery cannot be identified
On birth certificat August 1964
M194 additional mirror outside right convex |
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GHIA Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2005 Posts: 345 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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For information
M559 upholstery materiel coelin blue with leatherette ice blue (with L360 sea blue december 1962)
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GHIA Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2005 Posts: 345 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Supplement
Part list 61
M154 for 141 and 144 --> Air correction jet 170 and main jet 130 on caburator 28 PICT
August 1965 optionnel extras and deletion
M154 two oil bath air filter (VW 1300 KARMANN GHIA / SP81C) |
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boat_builder Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2007 Posts: 610 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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27 - Lap belt roller OR compliance with US West Coast Emissions Regulations.
These are the codes for my 72 ghia coupe, shipped to Los Angeles in late 1971. |
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Lee. Samba Animal Controller
Joined: December 22, 2003 Posts: 3079 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a detailed supplement that came with my 64's BC....
_________________ www.DenverWildlifeControl.com |
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lajs57 Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 326 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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I also have M584 Unknown - '59 Convertible |
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lajs57 Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 326 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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As the M500s codes refer to upholstery, my seats have the black-red cloth insert. May be code M584 refers to that? Was the cloth insert an option? |
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GHIA Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2005 Posts: 345 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Mcode M473 cannot be indentified and Mcode M001 for low light 12/57 |
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Paul_Revere's Ghia Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2007 Posts: 973 Location: South Wales, UK
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lajs57 Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 326 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Hi Seth,
What is the original color of your car?
What is the exact wording for the cloth insert?
Thanks! |
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Paul_Revere's Ghia Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2007 Posts: 973 Location: South Wales, UK
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lajs57 Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 326 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: M codes desiphered? |
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I just checked the forum topic "The Idiot's Guide to Original Karmann Ghia Interiors" and kgarchivinusa posted a link in german for interior upholstery:
If you can speak (and read) a little bit german, you find the right interior here:
type 14 coupe: http://www.karmann-ghia-archiv.de/farbarchivtyp14coupeinterior.html
type 14 convertible: http://www.karmann-ghia-archiv.de/farbarchivtyp14cabrioletinterior.html
from the convertible link check this:
01.08.1957 - Dezember 58 Fahrgestellnr.: 1 626 393 bis 2 270 325
Karosserie Unterteil Sitzfarben Stoff wahlweise Kunstleder
schwarz L41 585 593
perlweiß L87 584 592
diamantgrau L243 584 592
kardinalrot L354 587 595
amazonas L417 586 594
graphitsilber L428 587 592
bernina L431 590 597
Der Farbindex ist aus einer Original Farbkarte und kann leider nicht genauer aufgeschlüsselt werden.
Januar 1959 bis Juli 1959 Fahrgestellnr.:2 270 326 bis 2 528 667
Karosserie Unterteil Sitzfarben Stoff wahlweise Kunstleder
schwarz L41 585 593
perlweiß L87 584 592
diamantgrau L243 584 592
colorado L356 587 595
amazonas L417 586 594
graphitsilber L428 584 592
bernina L431 590 597
Der Farbindex ist aus einer Original Farbkarte und kann leider nicht genauer aufgeschlüsselt werden.
My UNKNOWN M code is M584 and my car is a Graphite Silver convertible!
The only thing that is still not matching is that my VIN is from December 1958 and if this table is correct it should be M587.
If this information matches youyr UNKNOW M Code please let us know!
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lajs57 Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 326 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: translation |
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Can a german speaker please translate:
"Karosserie Unterteil",
"Sitzfarben Stoff",
" Stoffbezug",
"wahlweise Kunstleder",
"Kunstlederbezug" and
"Der Farbindex ist aus einer Original Farbkarte und kann leider nicht genauer aufgeschlüsselt werden"
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74Ghia Samba Member
Joined: December 17, 2003 Posts: 2131 Location: Middle of Georgia
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: |
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For my 74 Coupe you have the M002, M054 and M128 identified. Also on my 74 Birth Certificate is "Option D53 cannot be identified." Anyone know what that might be? _________________ Allen C.
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GHIA Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2005 Posts: 345 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: |
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M54 --> Lockable glove compartment lid from Chassis No. 149 000 001 |
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52brezelfenster Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2005 Posts: 761 Location: OR
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Educated guess at M 592 as seen on a Sept 58 cabrio. The M codes in the high 500s seem to have a pattern of referring to interior specific details.
My car has a beige steering wheel, steering column tube, seat frames, e-brake handle, all interior painted parts are a darker color than seen on other lowlights. These interior parts were original paint when the car was found and I'm confident they left the factory that way.
This car is also the only documented Pearl White cab to have originally come with a tan top which is listed at M 578 on my birth certificate.
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pbaptist Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2005 Posts: 1204 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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This is what I think are the option codes for teh upholstery for the lowlights. I have some color brochures from were I got this information.
M577: Top Light grey (Option on L41 Black and L428 Graphite Silver convertible's)
M578: Top Black (Option on all convertibles)
M579: Top Light-Green (Option on Amazon green convertibles)
M580: Top Sahara-Beige (Option on Colorado Red convertibles
M581: Top Texas Brown (Option on Diamond grey convertibles)
M582: Top Blue (Option for Bernina blue convertible)
M584: Cannot be identified (mentioned on Graphide silver convertible)
M585: Upholstery Leather and Polster Red Brown (Option for Black and Pearl White convertibles)
M586: Upholstery Leather and Polster Green Grey (Option for Amazon Green convertibles)
M587: Upholstery Leather and Polster Light Beige (Option for Colorado Red convertibles)
M588: Upholstery Leather and Polster Brown (Option for Graphite Silver convertibles)
M589: Upholstery Leather and Polster Honey Brown (Option for Diamond Grey convertibles)
M590: Upholstery Leather and Polster Blue (Option for Bernina Blue convertibles)
M593: Upholstery full Leatherette Red Brown (Option on Black and Pearl White convertibles)
M594: Upholstery full Leatherette Green Grey (Option on Amazone Green convertibles)
M595: Upholstery full Leatherette Light Beige (option for Colorado Red convertibles)
M596: Upholstery full Leatherette Honey Brown (option for Diamond Grey convertibles)
M597: Upholstery full Leatherette Blue (option for Bernina Blue convertible)
M598: Upholstery cannot be identified _________________ Dutch Karmann-Ghia and coachbuild lover.
1* Karmann Ghia Coupe (1966 Teak)
2* Karmann Ghia Convertible (1958, 1971)
4* Rometsch Lawrence (nr 534, 555, 558 and 561)
Karmann-Ghia Lowlight page and registry
Karmann-Ghia Collectibles database |
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74Ghia Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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The Birth Certificate for my 74 Coupe has "M128 with White Wall tires." _________________ Allen C.
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wolfgang klinkert Samba Member
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