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skills@eurocarsplus
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if it was me (i always hate starting with that statement) i would run a 10 or 12ga wire from the battery up to the front of the bus to a secondary fuse box you could tuck under a kick panel. i would fuse the feed wire at the battery (for extra protection) then you could power a few extra goodies. you can follow the OE harness front to rear pretty easily. when i did my gauges, i bought a roll of wire for a trailer, so it was 4 wires, bonded together and was like killing 4 birds with one stone, jut another idea if you are going to run wires 
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Randy in Maine
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Location: The Beach
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| Yes I am already doing the 4 wire trailer wiring thing for the gauges (+ the CHT wires) run ina wiring loom coming out at the drivers left foot, but I didn't know if a 10 gauge wire was heavy enough for the 20 amps needed for the seats. It would certainly fit in the 3/8" wiring loom though. |
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Opossum
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Location: Islets of Langerhans
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| if it was me (i always hate starting with that statement) i would run a 10 or 12ga wire from the battery up to the front of the bus to a secondary fuse box you could tuck under a kick panel. i would fuse the feed wire at the battery (for extra protection) then you could power a few extra goodies. |
Exactly. I ran a fused 10 gauge wire to a secondary fuse box located behind the glove box. It has fuses for the power windows, stereo, fresh air fans, and 12v power outlet. These all run from the auxiliary battery.
The heated seats run off the main battery with a dedicated fused (at the battery) 10 gauge wire. I did this with the H4 headlights and a/c too.
Be sure to use a relay and connect the heated seats so they can only be used when the bus is running.
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webwalker 
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Location: Mount Laurel, NJ
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I guess one of the first questions is, 'what does a bus pull in terms of amps when running? Engine/AC?/Headlights?' How close are you to the return value of a 40A alternator on a standard bus, never mind those of us lucky enough to have the 70A.
Knowing the delta might help a lot.
Knowing the goodies I'd like to put to on a 40A rig, I think I'm a candidate for a dual battery rig, rather than pursuing the 'unobtainium' 70A alternator.
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Opossum
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rather than pursuing the 'unobtainium' 70A alternator.
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Try E-bay? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Mini-Bus-Porsche...ccessories
75 amp. $89.99 with one year warranty.
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fastmc25
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Location: East Tennessee
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Well I am going to bring this post back to life and I need some advice....
This 79 "project bus" has a 70 amp alternator.
I bought a couple of these that will be going in. Currently the seats are all torn apart, getting new foam cushions, new seat covers (brown camping cloth of course), cleaning and repainting the innerds.
http://www.heatedseatkits.com/heatedseatkits/iheat2/index.html
How should I wire these up? I need to get 20 amps to the front of the bus to power them up and I was thinking about putting an additonal fuse box someplace to do it. How big of wire do you figure I need to run? I will likely mount the switches in the floor like opposum did.
The only other wierd stuff I have going on in here is that I would also like to power up the 2 "ambulance fans" and the power amp for the stereo into this new fusebox if that is the way to do it.
The stock fuse box can do the ambulance fans if needed and the power amp comes off the battery right now. I could just leave that alone if needed. The power amp is currently under the rear seat, but will likely move to the overhead compartment. I would rather deal with it all at once as opposed to in phases.
The bus is headed for the paint shop here later this week and will be naked on the inside (and outside also....no windows or pop top as they are getting new seals/canvas after the paint job).
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Hey Randy,
I ran a separate 8 Ga. wire (from the Battery) to the front and installed a 6 fuse panel under the dash for running accessories from.... I run my front radiator fan, heater and a couple of accessory items from it.... no problems at all.... I ran it all under the bus along one of the frame rails and secured it with zip ties.......ensuring it was clear of any items that may damage it or rub it...
Just remember the longer you go you need to go bigger for higher amperage use.....I have thought of going up to a 6 ga. wire but don't need it at this time...
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chabanais
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I ordered the heated seat kits, relay, and fuse box from Amazon. I'll have it done in 2 weeks I'll post pics!
This thread was of great help.
Here's to hot asses.
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chabanais
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Mostly done here's a picture of the passenger side switch installed in my center console. Works great!
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scrivyscriv
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| Mostly done here's a picture of the passenger side switch installed in my center console. Works great! |
Your butt still getting hot? Just curious how well those heaters have held up.
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chabanais
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| Mostly done here's a picture of the passenger side switch installed in my center console. Works great! |
Your butt still getting hot? Just curious how well those heaters have held up. |
Does fine.
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PITApan
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Thrasher22
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udidwht
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Or you could do what I did and achieve the same results...no cold ass seat to sit on. These are holding up very well. Had them done 15 or so years ago.
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Brian
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I have gone through many winters with leatherette seats. My solution: a jacket.
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PITApan
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| I have gone through many winters with leatherette seats. My solution: a jacket. |
Move to Colorado and play that  |
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