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Aaron Samba Luddite
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Looks like the 10th bus in the "raised" row could be primer also, looks to be the same flat tone and have the single color bumper and body color emblem. _________________ ____________________
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Tonny_Larsen Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2003 Posts: 371 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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If this is light armatures, it could explain that the pick-up in the front is darker. Look at the floor, it is darker to.
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mightymouse Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 4220 Location: las vegas
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Tonny_Larsen wrote: |
If this is light armatures, it could explain that the pick-up in the front is darker. Look at the floor, it is darker to.
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I have looked at that, you and ev have a good point, i just cant see light pulling THAT much hue out of a color. That and it wouoldnt explain why the ones raised seem so damn dark. you know as well as any of us, dove is not that dark.
Its awful dark. and again, why the white wheel?
man i love this stuff. thanks for this pic. _________________ Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.
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Tonny_Larsen Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2003 Posts: 371 Location: Denmark
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sled Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 6171
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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any color is significantly lighter when it has florescent lights on it.
Im voting dove blue on all the commercial buses. _________________ drive your split. |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69734 Location: Phoenix Metro
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69734 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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mightymouse wrote: |
Tonny_Larsen wrote: |
If this is light armatures, it could explain that the pick-up in the front is darker. Look at the floor, it is darker to.
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I have looked at that, you and ev have a good point, i just cant see light pulling THAT much hue out of a color. That and it wouoldnt explain why the ones raised seem so damn dark. you know as well as any of us, dove is not that dark.
Its awful dark. and again, why the white wheel?
man i love this stuff. thanks for this pic. |
I looked at the photos very closely and I think the wheel is black but with a glare on it. _________________ How to Post Photos
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mightymouse Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 4220 Location: las vegas
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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thats what im saying, then again, who knows how many were made, in contrast to the seemingly endless swarm of dove blue. ( i adore dove blue)
but id love to see a commercial bus in a diff color. _________________ Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.
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mightymouse Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 4220 Location: las vegas
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
mightymouse wrote: |
Tonny_Larsen wrote: |
If this is light armatures, it could explain that the pick-up in the front is darker. Look at the floor, it is darker to.
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I have looked at that, you and ev have a good point, i just cant see light pulling THAT much hue out of a color. That and it wouoldnt explain why the ones raised seem so damn dark. you know as well as any of us, dove is not that dark.
Its awful dark. and again, why the white wheel?
man i love this stuff. thanks for this pic. |
I looked at the photos very closely and I think the wheel is black but with a glare on it. |
i was thinking that, and kept looking, in response to what you guys said, about the track lighting ending right behind that bus. _________________ Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.
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hugheseum Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2004 Posts: 2690 Location: oregon
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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anything is/was possible,but of the odd colored barn era buses werent the bumpers solid not 2 toned? _________________ Have a great day! |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69734 Location: Phoenix Metro
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dirtbug Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2007 Posts: 366 Location: Ramona, Ca.
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Tonny_Larsen wrote: |
I have scanned it in a higher resolution.
Click on the picture.
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I have looked at the photo for awhile. It appears that the BD's on the left are sequential in color. For instance, they start with a SC, then 6 down is a 2-tone, then another SC then 6 down another 2-tone. Very interesting. I too find myself searching for some time trying to pick up stuff _________________ 1959 Type 1 - Owned since 1983
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Brian_1952 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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wow that's a good.. EYE _________________ (20-024785)Ambulance (20-037784)truck (20-035850)panel
(20-035778)kombi
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mightymouse Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 4220 Location: las vegas
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Yes, I was initially considering that one or more of the vehicles could be Fire Red but the bumpers would be single-tone.
Also, I believe that all Fire Vehicles were delivered in Primer at this stage of production and painted/outfitted elsewhere? |
like the 3rd raised bus in, the panel that looks to be primered, has a black bumper on it.
look at the 3 racks of bumpers on the floor there, one is almost emptied, and looks to have a dove/white bumper left, the other is ALL black bumpers, and the one acrossed the way has mostly black bumpers and a brwn/beige bumper.
i love this pic.
someone has to know what year this is, look at the beams... and other small items.... 53?
Look at that white, or light colored panel, behind the brwn/beige std, no vented cargo area....
walkthrough, or...pre vented area? whaa... _________________ Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.
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mightymouse Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 4220 Location: las vegas
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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OH SNAP!!!!
the singlecabs have smooth gates!!!!! sssseeeeeeekkkkk!!!!
this has to be 52... oh man. _________________ Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.
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BeaterBarndoor Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2000 Posts: 824 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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i think we can rule out fancy special color speculation here. if you look closer, youll note that wherever there is a dark bus, notice the floors are also darker. i cant imagine they would have made their floors special flowing colors.
i myself would agree with Everetts idea of the skylights blasting light through in some areas,especially in the way back.
as for year, i would suspect latest 53 due to no site of rear bumpers.
id also guess the bumpers that are not beige/brown or blue/white are likely red for deluxes. red often comes out dark/black in b/w photos. _________________ www.thebustransfer.com
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Brian_1952 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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WRONG ^^^ No back bumpers anywhere in the picture.. And the buses have down mirror arms i would half to say that it sometime in 53 _________________ (20-024785)Ambulance (20-037784)truck (20-035850)panel
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Leica356 Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2003 Posts: 126 Location: Recreation and sight-seeing in Florida
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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When did the Standards change from Grey to Beige? |
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mightymouse Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 4220 Location: las vegas
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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BeaterBarndoor wrote: |
i think we can rule out fancy special color speculation here. if you look closer, youll note that wherever there is a dark bus, notice the floors are also darker. i cant imagine they would have made their floors special flowing colors.
i myself would agree with Everetts idea of the skylights blasting light through in some areas,especially in the way back.
as for year, i would suspect latest 53 due to no site of rear bumpers.
id also guess the bumpers that are not beige/brown or blue/white are likely red for deluxes. red often comes out dark/black in b/w photos. |
i dont think its any "fancy special color speculation", those were colors that were available at the time. 2 shades of grey, and 2 shades of brown, all 4 solid colors. (aside from dove blue)
yet to my knowledge, and anyone ive ever know, no one has ever seen these colors in real life.
Imagine a 52 smooth gate single, in chestnut brown, or brownbeige... thatd be sweet. or any other model, say a 52 kombi, in medium grey, thats bad ass. even the thought of it.
same concept as the pgsg 15 or 23. it was offered, yet how many have you seen? and thered be no reason theyd offer it, and then never make any.
surely there were some sweet ass brown busses in the early 50s. they prob all got demolished... _________________ Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Brian_Mccue wrote: |
WRONG ^^^ No back bumpers anywhere in the picture.. And the buses have down mirror arms i would half to say that it sometime in 53 |
This was my thought too due to the down mirror arms.
Trucks are hard to gauge anyway. My 3/54 truck doesn't have a rear bumper because trucks were last to get them. _________________ How to Post Photos
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