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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Difference between US and Canadian Wesfalia? Reply with quote

I am looking at a 1990 Westfalia with the full camping setup. It was imported to Canada and brought to the States in 2000. Anything I should know about any differences between it and its American sisters? The odometer was switched to miles when imported.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nothing major different
I have a canadian syncro westy, and a US 2wd Westy.

The stove lid is different on the US model, it has a drainboard, on the Canadian the metal it is attached to the stove lid and does not pull down.

the canadian electric power port on the outside of the van is down low, not between the water outlets, and the canadian power cord is very fat, and permanently attached. To connect to shore power you have to pull the cord thru the hole..

I was concerned it would invite water in if I waded deep, so I changed the outlet to a US version, but its still down low

my canadian westy had a webasto coolant heater, and a block heater

Some canadian years had 14" steel rims, when US models went to 14" Alloys. In my canadian syncro, the clamshell tire carrier pan was shallower than US model, and I had to change it to fit the spare when I went to alloy wheels.

other than those minor details, I cant think of any reason not to buy a canadian.. as long as you can get it into the states and registered.. which can be a problem in some states..
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I can tell Cdn models never got the alloy option or the side planks on the multivan version I really like the draintray on my US westy
the block heater was an option im sure you could get in the states too
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I cant think of any reason not to buy a canadian..


I will tell you one good reason... RUST Smile

Do you ever see that kind of stuff in the US:
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never saw rust that bad,did it actually run? Mine from Canada and with kilo-speedo and everything printed in French.Operation stickers in both english/french. swapped speedo out and giving a thorough going over ,getting ready for spring and getting anxious as we seem to be having an early and actual winter this yr.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm hopefully getting it inspected today. If there is any rust, the mechanic is going to tell me about it. I know that there is some at the horizontal seam above the propane tank. The owner reports that this spot has been stable for the last 6 years, but I am still a little worried about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol you got that right Ben! when I picked up my US westy I couldn't believe it the seams were still holding the body together!! and no rust in the engine bay! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

78 westy wrote:
Lol you got that right Ben! when I picked up my US westy I couldn't believe it the seams were still holding the body together!! and no rust in the engine bay! Very Happy


He he he... when our US neighbour see a inch of rust they call this one "a rust bucket" Smile

I'll show you seam rust!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben, being a Montraler myself, I know about rust, you should see my daily driver. That is why I chose to pay a bit more for an area Westfalia than others because mine has never seen winters. I use to work in a body shop and can only admire your work, but I didn't have the patience or time to restore my own, I paid for a nice one, some might say too much, but I'm happy!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats not rust...........its patina, just buff it out. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you still patching and painting ben??need some work done on the us bus should be a piece of cake 1 minor seam and the usual dent behind the slider
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

78 westy wrote:
you still patching and painting ben??need some work done on the us bus should be a piece of cake 1 minor seam and the usual dent behind the slider


I never did patching, and it's my last year painting.

New law in Canada (following Europe) for January 2010, waterbase paint only!
Base caot / clear coat will no more be sold starting September, Urethane may stay for a bit longer (but i hate to paint with Urethane)
10-20K$ in investment, I'm not going there, mucho money.

US is not following, so Canadian go have your van painted in the US, Price for a job will double here.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok I will pm you I checked out your site you do some fine work!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ftp2leta wrote:
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you still patching and painting ben??need some work done on the us bus should be a piece of cake 1 minor seam and the usual dent behind the slider


I never did patching, and it's my last year painting.

New law in Canada (following Europe) for January 2010, waterbase paint only!
Base caot / clear coat will no more be sold starting September, Urethane may stay for a bit longer (but i hate to paint with Urethane)
10-20K$ in investment, I'm not going there, mucho money.

US is not following, so Canadian go have your van painted in the US, Price for a job will double here.

Ben



Ben....Ive been applying chemical coatings for over 30 years. Come January of 2009, no more solvent based coatings , everything going water based.
Wood coatings are a whole different animal, but for autos/trucks/fleet vehicles its goingto be water.
I have seen some drop dead beeeeautiful non solvent based coatings and Ive seen some down right shitty applications.
Your correct about the Urethanes but the equipment for water based is very important too, yet not as costly.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ben....Ive been applying chemical coatings for over 30 years. Come January of 2009, no more solvent based coatings , everything going water based.
Wood coatings are a whole different animal, but for autos/trucks/fleet vehicles its goingto be water.
I have seen some drop dead beeeeautiful non solvent based coatings and Ive seen some down right shitty applications.
Your correct about the Urethanes but the equipment for water based is very important too, yet not as costly.


Is it a California rule only?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 1985 Canada Westy.

The Poptop was much thicker+heavier than USA westy poptop.
Also it had a gasoline heater.
And it had a km speedo.
No fold-down 'drainboard' over the stove.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ftp2leta wrote:
Jon_slider wrote:
I cant think of any reason not to buy a canadian..


I will tell you one good reason... RUST Smile

Do you ever see that kind of stuff in the US:
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I've seen rust like that in cars from Pennsylvania.

Ben, if you were going to buy a Canadian Westy would you rather go with one from the snow belt (Ottawa, Montreal) or the extreme cold belt (Winnipeg)?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extreme cold is better. It's a dry cold. Vancouver van are nice but sometime can be rusty too. from the air. But nothing that compares with road salt exposure.

The nice thing about extreme cold is that it is quite sticky. Things stick well. You get pretty good adherence on ice or snow if it's extremely cold. Hence they don't use road salts as much.

Extreme cold vehicles may suffer from other failures though. bad lubrication. hoses, parts, gasket that collapse or break due to the cold.
A good owner is essential. Good warm up, good oil. Every thing becomes sensible in the -20-40C (close in F).

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