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archicarp Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: Difference between US and Canadian Wesfalia? |
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I am looking at a 1990 Westfalia with the full camping setup. It was imported to Canada and brought to the States in 2000. Anything I should know about any differences between it and its American sisters? The odometer was switched to miles when imported.
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Jon_slider Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2007 Posts: 5091 Location: Santa Cruz, Crowdifornia
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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nothing major different
I have a canadian syncro westy, and a US 2wd Westy.
The stove lid is different on the US model, it has a drainboard, on the Canadian the metal it is attached to the stove lid and does not pull down.
the canadian electric power port on the outside of the van is down low, not between the water outlets, and the canadian power cord is very fat, and permanently attached. To connect to shore power you have to pull the cord thru the hole..
I was concerned it would invite water in if I waded deep, so I changed the outlet to a US version, but its still down low
my canadian westy had a webasto coolant heater, and a block heater
Some canadian years had 14" steel rims, when US models went to 14" Alloys. In my canadian syncro, the clamshell tire carrier pan was shallower than US model, and I had to change it to fit the spare when I went to alloy wheels.
other than those minor details, I cant think of any reason not to buy a canadian.. as long as you can get it into the states and registered.. which can be a problem in some states.. |
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66 dormi Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006 Posts: 607 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I can tell Cdn models never got the alloy option or the side planks on the multivan version I really like the draintray on my US westy
the block heater was an option im sure you could get in the states too _________________ DORMOBILE TOP WANTED!!!!
1978 westy daily driver
1960 panel camper project
Mini R53 bob the tomato |
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ftp2leta Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 3271 Location: Montreal
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morymob Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2007 Posts: 4683 Location: east-tn
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Never saw rust that bad,did it actually run? Mine from Canada and with kilo-speedo and everything printed in French.Operation stickers in both english/french. swapped speedo out and giving a thorough going over ,getting ready for spring and getting anxious as we seem to be having an early and actual winter this yr. |
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archicarp Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Well, I'm hopefully getting it inspected today. If there is any rust, the mechanic is going to tell me about it. I know that there is some at the horizontal seam above the propane tank. The owner reports that this spot has been stable for the last 6 years, but I am still a little worried about it. |
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66 dormi Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006 Posts: 607 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Lol you got that right Ben! when I picked up my US westy I couldn't believe it the seams were still holding the body together!! and no rust in the engine bay! _________________ DORMOBILE TOP WANTED!!!!
1978 westy daily driver
1960 panel camper project
Mini R53 bob the tomato |
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ftp2leta Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 3271 Location: Montreal
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Wellington Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2004 Posts: 1890 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Ben, being a Montraler myself, I know about rust, you should see my daily driver. That is why I chose to pay a bit more for an area Westfalia than others because mine has never seen winters. I use to work in a body shop and can only admire your work, but I didn't have the patience or time to restore my own, I paid for a nice one, some might say too much, but I'm happy!! |
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thats not rust...........its patina, just buff it out. |
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66 dormi Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006 Posts: 607 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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you still patching and painting ben??need some work done on the us bus should be a piece of cake 1 minor seam and the usual dent behind the slider _________________ DORMOBILE TOP WANTED!!!!
1978 westy daily driver
1960 panel camper project
Mini R53 bob the tomato |
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ftp2leta Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 3271 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: |
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78 westy wrote: |
you still patching and painting ben??need some work done on the us bus should be a piece of cake 1 minor seam and the usual dent behind the slider |
I never did patching, and it's my last year painting.
New law in Canada (following Europe) for January 2010, waterbase paint only!
Base caot / clear coat will no more be sold starting September, Urethane may stay for a bit longer (but i hate to paint with Urethane)
10-20K$ in investment, I'm not going there, mucho money.
US is not following, so Canadian go have your van painted in the US, Price for a job will double here.
Ben _________________ Working with rust, grease, dirt and dust is a sad truth.
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66 dormi Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006 Posts: 607 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: |
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ok I will pm you I checked out your site you do some fine work! _________________ DORMOBILE TOP WANTED!!!!
1978 westy daily driver
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Mini R53 bob the tomato |
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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ftp2leta wrote: |
78 westy wrote: |
you still patching and painting ben??need some work done on the us bus should be a piece of cake 1 minor seam and the usual dent behind the slider |
I never did patching, and it's my last year painting.
New law in Canada (following Europe) for January 2010, waterbase paint only!
Base caot / clear coat will no more be sold starting September, Urethane may stay for a bit longer (but i hate to paint with Urethane)
10-20K$ in investment, I'm not going there, mucho money.
US is not following, so Canadian go have your van painted in the US, Price for a job will double here.
Ben |
Ben....Ive been applying chemical coatings for over 30 years. Come January of 2009, no more solvent based coatings , everything going water based.
Wood coatings are a whole different animal, but for autos/trucks/fleet vehicles its goingto be water.
I have seen some drop dead beeeeautiful non solvent based coatings and Ive seen some down right shitty applications.
Your correct about the Urethanes but the equipment for water based is very important too, yet not as costly. |
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ftp2leta Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 3271 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Ben....Ive been applying chemical coatings for over 30 years. Come January of 2009, no more solvent based coatings , everything going water based.
Wood coatings are a whole different animal, but for autos/trucks/fleet vehicles its goingto be water.
I have seen some drop dead beeeeautiful non solvent based coatings and Ive seen some down right shitty applications.
Your correct about the Urethanes but the equipment for water based is very important too, yet not as costly. |
Is it a California rule only?
Ben _________________ Working with rust, grease, dirt and dust is a sad truth.
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9614 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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I had a 1985 Canada Westy.
The Poptop was much thicker+heavier than USA westy poptop.
Also it had a gasoline heater.
And it had a km speedo.
No fold-down 'drainboard' over the stove.
Whenever you take your foot off the throttle it says "eh?"
Tom _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb |
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Gauche1968 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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ftp2leta wrote: |
Jon_slider wrote: |
I cant think of any reason not to buy a canadian.. |
I will tell you one good reason... RUST
Do you ever see that kind of stuff in the US:
Ben |
I've seen rust like that in cars from Pennsylvania.
Ben, if you were going to buy a Canadian Westy would you rather go with one from the snow belt (Ottawa, Montreal) or the extreme cold belt (Winnipeg)? _________________ 1984 Vanagon GL
1984 Vanagon Westy |
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Crughy Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2004 Posts: 576 Location: Montreal, Qc
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Extreme cold is better. It's a dry cold. Vancouver van are nice but sometime can be rusty too. from the air. But nothing that compares with road salt exposure.
The nice thing about extreme cold is that it is quite sticky. Things stick well. You get pretty good adherence on ice or snow if it's extremely cold. Hence they don't use road salts as much.
Extreme cold vehicles may suffer from other failures though. bad lubrication. hoses, parts, gasket that collapse or break due to the cold.
A good owner is essential. Good warm up, good oil. Every thing becomes sensible in the -20-40C (close in F).
JP |
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