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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Wheel bearing service, replace the races too? Reply with quote

I had my bus in the air today to check the front wheel bearings because I have been hearing some thumping during breaking. I did notice there is some play in the wheel. I take it the bearings are loose. I have a new set of bearings to go in, but should I replace the races at the same time?

Can I get away with just replacing the bearings and not the races?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Wheel bearing service, replace the races too? Reply with quote

pete000 wrote:


Can I get away with just replacing the bearings and not the races?

Sure if you want to do them again in no time flat.
You must be kidding to suggest a short cut rip off repair on this forum.
Of course you replace the race. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Shame on you
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, out they will come...

All new everything...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always. Replace. Races. Always.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tencentlife wrote:
Always. Replace. Races. Always.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would verify that the bearings were bad before I replaced them. A few thousandth of axial play is pretty normal. Clean the bearings and look for any signs of pitting, metal transfer, discoloration from heat, or anything out of the norm. Make sure that you get the cones fully clean so you can inspect the inner race as well as the rollers.

Best to always keep the cups and cones matched and replace as a set.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I purchased the wheel bearing kit from Van-Cafe (grease cap, inner + outer bearing, peening nut)
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A brass drift is a MUST for removing the races (I had a hard time finding brass drifts at my FLAPS. I finally found the most reasonably priced set at Sears
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Remove Wheels and grease cap (be careful not to bend the grease cap)
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Old bearings, grease, and grease seal
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Put the rotor on a bench vice and start removing the races with the brass drift. Try to work around the race to drive it out evenly. This took some practice but I finally got the hang of it. Drive the new races in using the same procedure.
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Repack your new bearings with fresh bearing grease forcing the grease into all the bearing surfaces
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Replace and use the Bentley (40.11) for correct torque procedure. Don't forget to peen your new nuts Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the for how to pictorial.

I replaced the rear bearings and races on my 93 Corrado and it is pretty much the same routine.

my bus has 175K on it and no records of when they were done last. I figured if its all apart mine as well replace all of it. Was unsure on the races though.

Thanks again ! Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people mistake that there is grease for disc rotor bearings and a different grease for drum brake bearings.
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