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carterzest Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2008 Posts: 3842 Location: Eagle, ID/Sun Valley, ID
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:59 am Post subject: Rerouting Fuel Filter/Fuel Lines Away From Dizzy? |
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So, tried several searches and got too much input to wade through.....
rolled the Thing out Friday to fill the tank with super and check out the mechanics and ask our local Discount Import Parts counter employee where he suggested I move the fuel line/fuel filter. Right before Xmas, I redid the fuel lines from trunk back and engine firewall forward. WOW, was that a shock and now I have no more gas smell. REPLACE YOUR FUEL LINES NOW! Mine cracked and fell to pieces when I removed the clips and slipped them off the Metal line
I noticed during our recent snow and cold snap that I had a spark coming from my Dizzy one night when I fired up the Thing in a dark garage. I clamped the connections and redid them all tight and no longer see any live spark. My fuel filter is right next to the Dizzy! He suggested that I just lengthen the line and tuck it back away from the Dizzy.
Any pics, posts or suggestions will be much appreciated. Want to do it right the first time!
Thanks in advance for all your input.
Jeffrey _________________ Happiness=Portland, Oregon in the rearview mirror! |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76940 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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carterzest Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2008 Posts: 3842 Location: Eagle, ID/Sun Valley, ID
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Glenn for the Links and suggestions.That thread is pregnant with info I sought! So, where the metal line goes forward through the firewall is (2nds choice for you) where you would suggest placing the filter? That is not so bad at all!
I have done some reading in this forum about dual filters, one up front and one in back. Just another thing to check but, makes perfect sense with the age of these Things. I have heard both schools of thought on the fuel filters. Clear= easier to see blockages but not as hearty. Metal= More expensive and unable to see the blockage. I guess it really does not matter as I take mine off and try to blow it out monthly and replace quarterly when driving daily, and, I always have spare fuel line, filters and tools on hand. _________________ Happiness=Portland, Oregon in the rearview mirror! |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76940 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:26 am Post subject: |
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If you feel the need to run two filters, then its time to pull the tank and have it "hot tanked" and sealed. Remember these cars never came with a filter from the factory.
I have a metal filter next to the tranny and zip tied to the bowen tube so it doesn't bounce around. _________________ Glenn
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carterzest Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2008 Posts: 3842 Location: Eagle, ID/Sun Valley, ID
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
If you feel the need to run two filters, then its time to pull the tank and have it "hot tanked" and sealed. Remember these cars never came with a filter from the factory.
I have a metal filter next to the tranny and zip tied to the bowen tube so it doesn't bounce around. |
Cool. Tank has been "Hot Tanked" already. No issues there, just want the car to be around for a few more years so I will do as you say. Thanks! _________________ Happiness=Portland, Oregon in the rearview mirror! |
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kme_eone Banned
Joined: November 24, 2005 Posts: 308 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: Filter |
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All of the VW stuff I have read and seen, there has been no fuel filter. Anyone else see anything that showed a fuel filter that is an OFFICIAL VW publication? _________________ Chris Blankenship
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uberautowerks Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2005 Posts: 1600 Location: Longmont Co
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Factory fuel filter...
#1 in the tank, wrapped around the pick-up tube
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#2 Hiding under the top of the OE fuel pump. Page 3, factory owners manual, bottom right photo. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/73thing/73thingmanual.pdf _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
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kme_eone Banned
Joined: November 24, 2005 Posts: 308 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: filter |
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Forgot about the fuel screen. doesn't do much. Make sure you have cleaned the fuel tank of any crud that finds it way into the fuel tank from fuel fill ups.
My own habbit is to take the fuel tank out every winter and give it a good cleaning since it spends most of it's time like a bear in winter.
RejectX I found works good at keeping some crud from attaching itself to the tank walls during the off season. Aslo you use it as a paint coating to help keep dirt from sticking to the paint and easier to wipe off brake dust from the wheels and back side of chrome hubcaps. Aviation places sell RejectX, cheap stuff too. _________________ Chris Blankenship
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76940 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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A screen is not a filter.
Every modern car has a screen/sock in the tank. They also have a replaceable filter near the tank. _________________ Glenn
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uberautowerks Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2005 Posts: 1600 Location: Longmont Co
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Ah Glenn, a screen is a filter, it may only filter out the big chunks, but it does filter and yes all modern cars have one too and they keep the big chunks from going through the very expensive pump.
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Anyway, the second factory "Filter" was in the fuel pump and between the two the system worked great.
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Now as the filter top pump hasn't been available for a long time the system does need another filter and I agree with you put it under the tank and call it done. _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
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'71 Single cab (White too)
'70 Weekender (White three)
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klokard Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2005 Posts: 158
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Check out the location of my fuel filter. I have been doing it this way for years with nary a problem. I replace the fuel filter every oil change. It doesn't show in the pic but it is zip tied to the heater duct clamp.
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Damn those dual cleaners are SEXY!! _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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