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pete000 Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Ocala FL
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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I am going to be making up some handy decals for the engine compartment. This is my first shot.
Did I get the order correct?
Does it look like it would make sense to a rookie who might be changing plug wires, cap, etc..
Thanks for your input.
_________________ 1990 Vanagon RS 2.1
1967 Deluxe 21 window
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Koni Shocks
H & R Red Springs
Addco Sway Bars Front-Rear
18 X 7.5 and 18 X 8 OEM Porsche Wheels
Recaro Power-Heated seats |
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mightyart Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2004 Posts: 6188 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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You need another L on Dwell. |
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82WestyMan Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2006 Posts: 1098 Location: Western OR
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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... and some of us have a dwell adj...
either that or label it specific for WBX _________________ "The floggings will continue until morale improves"
"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell" - Harry S. Truman
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SteveVanB Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1645 Location: This side of Daytona
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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One "dumb" sticker can make me sound "smart"! I like it!!! _________________ 91 CARAT |
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pete000 Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Ocala FL
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input, here is the final version.
_________________ 1990 Vanagon RS 2.1
1967 Deluxe 21 window
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Koni Shocks
H & R Red Springs
Addco Sway Bars Front-Rear
18 X 7.5 and 18 X 8 OEM Porsche Wheels
Recaro Power-Heated seats |
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msinabottle Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3492 Location: Denver Area, Colorado
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:58 pm Post subject: Print 'em up! |
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Print 'em up on good material and try to keep the prices low. I'd consider buying a sheet!
Best! _________________ 'Winston,' '84 1.9 WBX Westy
Vanagon Poet Laureate: "I have suffered in
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rotorimp Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2007 Posts: 253 Location: Surprise AZ
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I would buy one!! _________________ 1965 walkthrough Sundial |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Already seen these listed over at E-Bay---
You guys just ain't paying attention--- _________________ T.K. |
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ftp2leta Samba Member
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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The sticker I created years ago finally flaked off and I couldn't find the file to print another. I made up this new diagram.
The reason to make a new one was recently elevated by having my distributer fail on a trail during Syncro Safari last week. In case you're wondering, there's no shops in Panguitch, Utah to loan a timing light, but the NAPA there will be happy to sell you one for $83.
Please tell me ASAP if it's in error in any way. If not, feel free to download it and print it on something to stick it on or near your engine hatch.
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys? |
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4789 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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i would add on your sticker which way to rotate the dist for timing advance and retard. the rotation arrow helps however. very handy when tuning Seat of the Pants. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9808 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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Good idea - something I like to have handy:
Yeah, everyone knows that but sometimes in the moment (along the road, at night, tired) a memory aid can be useful. |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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Can someone make me a diesel version? _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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Howesight Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2008 Posts: 3274 Location: Vancouver, B.C.
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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No, because the diesel spark plugs are totally different. _________________ '86 Syncro Westy SVX |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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How dare you cast aspersions on my diesel spark plugs! _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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Howesight Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2008 Posts: 3274 Location: Vancouver, B.C.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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Casey, no aspersions intended. Diesel spark plugs deserve just as much love as gasoline spark plugs. Sorry if I offended. _________________ '86 Syncro Westy SVX |
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10250 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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A motion for the sticker to also include a drawing of the crank pulley showing its rotation, and the location of the timing mark. In the stress of a field problem it is easy to make a 50/50 error (rotation) plus the timing mark is easily confused with the way VW did it, and the reference mark (an unmarked edge on the block casting) is hard to see on the side of the road, under duress, etc. _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4789 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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IdahoDoug wrote: |
A motion for the sticker to also include a drawing of the crank pulley showing its rotation, and the location of the timing mark. In the stress of a field problem it is easy to make a 50/50 error (rotation) plus the timing mark is easily confused with the way VW did it, and the reference mark (an unmarked edge on the block casting) is hard to see on the side of the road, under duress, etc. |
i like the addition. V notch = 5 BTDC, U notch = TDC
yeah, the stress of a dead engine on the road can play havoc with clear thinking.. "It rotates clockwise. Or is that from the front?" maybe in fine print at the bottom it should also say "Breathe" _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
www.thefixitworkshop.com |
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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DanHoug wrote: |
i like the addition. V notch = 5 BTDC, U notch = TDC... |
Or 5° ATDC if a Digjet.
But pretty easy to take the image already offered and add specific info as desired. |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Ignition Firing Order Decal... |
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Ahwahnee - Thanks for the Advance/Retard suggestion. Added this and a border to Rev 1.
Jim _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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