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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: Electrical question |
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I searched but didn't see anything specific to my problem. In my '73 when I hit the high beam switch it will trigger the relay BUT it also honks the horn! Also if I push my steering wheel in (towards the front end) I can trip the relay for the high beams.
I have replaced the turn signal switch though the problem existed before I did that.
Is there a coupler or bushing in the steering column? Mine seems to have a little play left to right up and down. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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uberautowerks Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2005 Posts: 1600 Location: Longmont Co
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: |
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I would guess that the wires to the parts in question are reversed in some way, but not as simple as the horn button and the hi beam switch. You stated that the horn honks... just the once or does it stay on?
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As to the rattle or play, yes there is a bushing between the steering shaft and the upper bearing. The upper bearing is just "Behind" the steering wheel.
Part # 175-419-341 A
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As a side note, I have that bushing in stock, $8.50 shipped. _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
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'71 Single cab (White too)
'70 Weekender (White three)
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Ron Domeck Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 1466 Location: louisville Ky
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:04 am Post subject: |
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First replace all fuses and clean the fuse holder. There is and adjustment on the steering column, 2 bolts inder the dash. Sounds like the switch is to close to the steering wheel |
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:13 am Post subject: |
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uberautowerks wrote: |
I would guess that the wires to the parts in question are reversed in some way, but not as simple as the horn button and the hi beam switch. You stated that the horn honks... just the once or does it stay on?
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As to the rattle or play, yes there is a bushing between the steering shaft and the upper bearing. The upper bearing is just "Behind" the steering wheel.
Part # 175-419-341 A
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As a side note, I have that bushing in stock, $8.50 shipped. |
It just honks when the high beam switch is pulled. I also had the relay humming when I pulled the light switch out for parking lights and when the head lights were turned on they were on highbeam.
My switch is a POS, maybe thats part of it too?
I have a similar looking thing on the colum but it appears to be metal, maybe brass? Is that what the original bushings looked like? _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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uberautowerks Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2005 Posts: 1600 Location: Longmont Co
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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I think Ron might be on the right track. The contacts for the Hi Low switch are on the left side of the signal switch and are exposed to the back of the wheel hub. If the wheel is too close to the switch you could make contact with the horn contact. Your comment about pushing the wheel forward tells me the same thing.
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So... you need to move the wheel away from the column a bit. There are two adjustments.
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The first is the two bolts that Ron spoke off. These are the same two bolts that hold the column to the body, under the dash, just behind the switches. Loosen the two bolts and push/ wiggle the column towards the front of the car perhaps only a 1/16", then tighten the bolts.
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If that works, the horn and highs are separate, great!
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If not or if you need more adjustment ask and I detail the other procedure. _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
- Douglas Adams -
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'74 Thing (White)
'71 Single cab (White too)
'70 Weekender (White three)
'05 Evolution VIII (White also!!!)
'68 F-250 (White over black) |
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uberautowerks Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2005 Posts: 1600 Location: Longmont Co
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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I missed your second question...
The plastic bushing goes between the brass and the shaft, or perhaps someone "Made" something to try and replace the bushing. _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
- Douglas Adams -
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'74 Thing (White)
'71 Single cab (White too)
'70 Weekender (White three)
'05 Evolution VIII (White also!!!)
'68 F-250 (White over black) |
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Ron Domeck wrote: |
First replace all fuses and clean the fuse holder. There is and adjustment on the steering column, 2 bolts inder the dash. Sounds like the switch is to close to the steering wheel |
That's what it ended up being- thanks. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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kme_eone Banned
Joined: November 24, 2005 Posts: 308 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Did you take the steering wheel off? I had mine off and decided to clean the conacts for the turn signal arm and wiper arm and found copper shavings there. I just used some compressed air and some corrosion X.
I am glad you found out what the cause was. Happy driving. _________________ Chris Blankenship
South Wind parts and service
907-276-3397
Anchorage, AK |
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