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jrcnova Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2009 Posts: 52 Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:15 am Post subject: |
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That was the answer I have been looking for. Thanks very much. |
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oring71 Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2004 Posts: 406 Location: Malta
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Hello all,
I just finnished narrowing a B/j beam by 3" and all went good till i put everything back together and on the car, It is not level and the front now sits 1" higher on one side.
Im sure everything is square and no flatbars are broken so what could be the problem.
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Anyone??? _________________ Das Maltese Kruizers |
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spotfreerynse Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2007 Posts: 440 Location: ROCKWALL TX
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:56 am Post subject: |
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do you have on the shocks , is one of them stuck ? |
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spotfreerynse Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2007 Posts: 440 Location: ROCKWALL TX
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Also , you might want to open the door on the higher side and stand in the door jam , hang on and jump up and down , there may be something that is not "SEATED" properly , after doing this remeasure ! |
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westcoast-paul Samba Member
Joined: January 31, 2006 Posts: 822 Location: CanadaYaHoser
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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why is this no longer a sticky? It was yesterday. _________________ - Paul |
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Fattie I'd roll it
Joined: November 27, 2005 Posts: 5582 Location: louisiana
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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westcoast-paul wrote: |
why is this no longer a sticky? It was yesterday. |
look again.....what happened to most of the stickies ? _________________ Donate and help me get another aircooled dub to share with you guys www.paypal.me/WhosCare |
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westcoast-paul Samba Member
Joined: January 31, 2006 Posts: 822 Location: CanadaYaHoser
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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ahhhhhhh _________________ - Paul |
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oring71 Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2004 Posts: 406 Location: Malta
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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spotfreerynse wrote: |
Also , you might want to open the door on the higher side and stand in the door jam , hang on and jump up and down , there may be something that is not "SEATED" properly , after doing this remeasure ! |
Yes the shoks are in place and they are new, today i went for a small test dive and after the drive it looks to be abit better but still one side is higher, maby ill drive it for a few days and see if maby it just needs time (and a few bumps) for everything to "seat".
Thanks for the reply. _________________ Das Maltese Kruizers |
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spotfreerynse Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2007 Posts: 440 Location: ROCKWALL TX
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Also you may want to remember that if your torsion leaves are original , they may be slightly weaker on one side do to carrying the driver (without a passenger) over all these years ! also the weight of the person that drives the car is a factor in the wearing as well ! |
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mynameistory Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2008 Posts: 267
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Don't worry, mine's the same way. Check your rear ride height. When I set mine down one outer spline, an inner also accidentally got clicked. The driver's side was lower, hoping it's corrected when I do it again. If you raise the driver rear, it will raise the driver front and lower the passenger front to even them out (hopefully). _________________ -tory |
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oring71 Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2004 Posts: 406 Location: Malta
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:42 am Post subject: |
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spotfreerynse wrote: |
Also you may want to remember that if your torsion leaves are original , they may be slightly weaker on one side do to carrying the driver (without a passenger) over all these years ! also the weight of the person that drives the car is a factor in the wearing as well ! |
Are you saying my g/f is FAT????
Just kidding Thanks for the help _________________ Das Maltese Kruizers |
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Derek Cobb Annoying
Joined: March 11, 2004 Posts: 2565
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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I just narrowed my BJ beam 3 1/2 inches. I'm a novice welder, but everything turned out fine once I got everything clean enough.
I put the adjuster in 90 degrees out the first try, and I had to cut them out and try it again.
I still have to dimple the outer ends of the tosion stacks, and do all the sanding and finishing on the beam, but all in all, it was a good do-it-yourself project for someone with a fair amount of mechanical ability and basic welding skills.
these forums on TheSamba were absolutely vital for this project. I never would have even attempted this before I found this forum.
Thanks Sambanista's! |
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Motomazzo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2009 Posts: 792 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Hey All,
I am about to narrow the stock beam on my 66' project. I am adding adjusters and although I really haven't sat down and tried to figure it out, I will say that a quick read-through of setting the proper angle of the adjusters seems a little confusing. I was just hoping one of you could tell me the process in plain english. I have looked at all the DIY sites on the internet and everyone just shows a pic with the adjusters installed, but they don't elaborate about how they chose the angle. I even saw one guy use a protractor, but no mention of the angle used. I've read someting about a horizontal scribe through the center of the orig hole....but then where does that line hit the new adjuster slot? I don't have any desire to raise the front end, so I will probably be installing them for maximum drop (although I prob won't use it all). Also, I am installing EMPI adjusters (non ratcheting type). Anyway, any light you guys could shed would be great.
Thanks! First post....love the site! |
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Motomazzo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2009 Posts: 792 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Hey All,
No takers on my request? That's okay. I got the beam narrowed this weekend anyway. It went smoothly. I noticed I posted this in the wrong category anyway (I have a 66'), but just FYI - the diagram included with the EMPI adjusters is labeled wrong. Once I finally sat down with the instructions and viewed as many photos of adjusters on the internet as I could, it was apparent that they mis-referenced different parts on the diagram and it really made it hard to understand. Anyway, FYI... |
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Endicott jb Bondo King
Joined: February 17, 2008 Posts: 1902 Location: Havre, MT
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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66 is a ball joint beam. 65 and down is link pin. _________________ Josh
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1968 vw beetle(Caroline)
1974 VW Panel Bus
2003 Dodge 2500 5.9 Cummins(Katey)
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spotfreerynse Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2007 Posts: 440 Location: ROCKWALL TX
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:27 am Post subject: |
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I had bought my beam used with adjusters already installed , so for me I just marked a reference point to where they previously were !!! Otherwise I would have looked at someone elses beam to get an Idea of the angle , cause all that protratctor stuff is pretty confusing to me as well ! Congrats on getting it done ! |
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ashman40 Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2007 Posts: 15987 Location: North Florida, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Derek Cobb wrote: |
I just narrowed my BJ beam 3 1/2 inches. I'm a novice welder, but everything turned out fine once I got everything clean enough.
I put the adjuster in 90 degrees out the first try, and I had to cut them out and try it again.
I still have to dimple the outer ends of the tosion stacks, and do all the sanding and finishing on the beam, but all in all, it was a good do-it-yourself project for someone with a fair amount of mechanical ability and basic welding skills.
these forums on TheSamba were absolutely vital for this project. I never would have even attempted this before I found this forum.
Thanks Sambanista's! |
I wanted to add to this thread since it had such good quality pics on the process. Take a look at these two additional references on installing front adjusters:
http://laudeman.com/bug_front_adjusters.html
http://www.swayaway.net/joomla/images/InstallInstr...USTERS.pdf
It wasn't until I read Derek's comments above and re-read the two sets of instructions above that I realized the bolt that protrudes out from the round center adjustment disc (on the ball joint unit) does NOT lock the leaf springs into place. I always thought that WAS the grub screw that holds the spings in place (on the earlier link pin unit it is). But on the ball joint unit there is a separate small grub screw to lock the springs in place (see the swayaway diagrams).
It is THIS small grub screw (#6 in the swayaway diagram) that must line up with the original grub screw locatons to obtain stock height. The more visible socket set screw (#2) is installed 90-deg from the grub screw.
After everything is installed, the set screw will be located 90-deg further upward from the original grub screw locations when the adjusters are set at stock height.
This may seem silly to state for someone who has already installed ball joint adjusters, but for anyone who hasn't or for someone who has only installed the earlier link pin adjusters this is a significant difference. _________________ AshMan40
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'67 Beetle #1 {project car that never made it to the road }
'75 Beetle 1200LS (RHD Japan model) {junked due to frame rot}
'67 Beetle #2 {2019 project car - Wish me luck!} |
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Derek Cobb Annoying
Joined: March 11, 2004 Posts: 2565
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Glad I could be used as a cautionary tale. My entire life has ben an example of what NOT to do |
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econo_bug Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2009 Posts: 24 Location: Manila, Philippines
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Will I get a stiffer ride if I'm gonna narrow my beam? |
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Jerry Hundley Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2006 Posts: 1181 Location: Chester, Va
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:21 am Post subject: |
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econo_bug wrote: |
Will I get a stiffer ride if I'm gonna narrow my beam? |
Yes _________________ Jerry Hundley (AKA Slammed 66)
Because Stock Sucks!!!!
70 baywindow deluxe
65 slammed bug
69 bug
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