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77_Bus_Girl Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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it's the thread that never dies!
I too am searching for seat options - I'm not in a vanagon though - I'm a 77 westy. I found a set of rear (or middle) buckets from an 02 EV, and wondering if they have the same rails as the front ones? (and how else they differ)
They are reasonably priced - but will they fit with just the simple "trim the rails" mod?
I suspect they will not work...
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Gruppe B Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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Sorry but the middle seats don't have seat rails and are not really adjustable.
You would have to cut off those legs then weld them in, not really practical.
The deal killer though is that the middle forward facing seats don't have any rear seat back adjustment and are pretty uncomfortable in the stock angle. |
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77_Bus_Girl Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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Gruppe B wrote: |
Sorry but the middle seats don't have seat rails and are not really adjustable.
You would have to cut off those legs then weld them in, not really practical.
The deal killer though is that the middle forward facing seats don't have any rear seat back adjustment and are pretty uncomfortable in the stock angle. |
Sort of what I figured, but thought I'd ask.
finding affordable, decent seats is proving difficult _________________ 77 Westfalia + 2 dogs = good life. |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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It might be possible to harvest the seat cushion and seat back and use them on Vanagon frames, which would be a nice comfort upgrade. But you wouldn't be able to use the cool EV feature that allows the seat backs to swing down 90 degrees. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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elizer Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2016 Posts: 1462 Location: Northern Virginia
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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Picked me up a set of eurovan seats. What did you guys do about this seat belt receiver bracket. Did you just cut with a cutting wheel right under that plastic trim and pull it out?
I was it was retained by bolts but it doesn't seem that way. And anyone know of anywhere to get oem upholstery? If not I I guess I will be going the sewfine route.
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vwwestyman Samba Member
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campism Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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elizer wrote: |
Picked me up a set of eurovan seats. What did you guys do about this seat belt receiver bracket. Did you just cut with a cutting wheel right under that plastic trim and pull it out?
I was it was retained by bolts but it doesn't seem that way. And anyone know of anywhere to get oem upholstery? If not I I guess I will be going the sewfine route.
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I drilled out the rivet holding the two parts together, pulled the outer buckle piece and cut off the remaining tab.
Looks like my old link is dead so try this one:
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/11272941425529...-q0lvWU0gE _________________ '87 Westy in Wolfram Grey Metallic |
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pnwkayaker Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2008 Posts: 919 Location: Sammamish, WA
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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vwwestyman wrote: |
Does Sewfine make new seat foam for the Eurovan seats perchance?
Anyone else? |
I think they do, but the best approach is to give them a call though (I believe they only take orders via the phone?) _________________ 87 Syncro Westy EJ25 ("Tardis")
Seattle Meetup at Marymoor (link)
A collection of Simple Useful Mods (SUM) (link) |
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elizer Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2016 Posts: 1462 Location: Northern Virginia
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:36 am Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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I just hit it with an angle grinder with a metal cuttoff wheel. Thanks campism.
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wesitarz Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2012 Posts: 1490 Location: Victoria,B.C.Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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77_Bus_Girl wrote: |
it's the thread that never dies!
I too am searching for seat options - I'm not in a vanagon though - I'm a 77 westy. I found a set of rear (or middle) buckets from an 02 EV, and wondering if they have the same rails as the front ones? (and how else they differ)
They are reasonably priced - but will they fit with just the simple "trim the rails" mod?
I suspect they will not work...
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Would these EV middle seats work to replace the rear facing jumper seats? |
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Gruppe B Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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The locking system to snap the chair into place in the eurovan requires 4 specialty bolts to be fastened very securely to the floor. The chair then slides over and locks on these specialty bolts.
Might be possible.
I don't like these chairs however as there is no backrest adjustment.
Eurovan Jump seats are always available, but you will need to get the mounts as well and do some fab.
The euro jumpseats have armrests, fully adjustable backrest and the seatbelt attached. |
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wesitarz Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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Thanks GruppeB. I didn't know EVs had jumpseats. I see them now in the classifieds. |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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For those of you who have fiddled around with modifying EV seats to fit in a Vanagon, do you have a clue whether Vanagon seats can be easily (and non-permanently) modded to fit in an EV? I need to service the seats in my EV and would like to temporarily install the seats from my Vanagon. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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vwwestyman Samba Member
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Gruppe B Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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The 2001 seats don't match Vanagon rails |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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Dude, you just bummed me out twice
Heh... _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15144 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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iirc eurovan rails bolt on, get a set of early EV rails and then you can use the vanagon seats. _________________
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campism Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:21 am Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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May not be that easy. I think the EV's backrest pivot is built into the seat rail, so will complicate fitting it to a Vanagon seat.
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elizer Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2016 Posts: 1462 Location: Northern Virginia
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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edited because im dumb |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Do Eurovan seats fit in Vanagons |
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no I meant the seat rails on the bases.. Ionly have experiance in early EV seats.. so may not be the case in later models.. but the early EV base rails bolt onto the pedestals _________________
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