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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50351
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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You people are scaring me. If may be nerdish, but I always pick up the manual when I buy a car and read it. Boring as H&%%, but sometimes you learn something important. Various manuals I have read over the years have had seemingly mundane, but none the less useful info. Like where to put the oil or which is the cheapest window to break out if you lock your keys inside.
Check for manuals on eBay and when you go to a wrecking yard looking for parts, just check the glove boxes to see what is hid in there. |
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Dogpilot Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2005 Posts: 4205 Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Wildtings,
Reading the manual is not nerdy, got to do it all the time on aircraft. Seriously, do you read what must be, like 25 pages of legal notices. Does anybody read that? Of course now in new cars the section, or frequently a separate book, on the entertainment system is larger than the vehicle portion. The maintenance part get smaller every year.
Hiram, don't feel bad. I found mine the same way, stuck funnel. Luckily, it was on the trip home from purchase. _________________ Geology with a Syncro rocks!
86 Syncro Westy AKA "The Bughunter"
98 Disco I
08 Range Rover SC
08 VW Rabbit S
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hiram6 Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2006 Posts: 1880 Location: Beautiful South
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Usually I do read the owners manuals when I get a new car. My Passat wagon's manual is kind of infamous for it's grammar mistakes.
Maybe I'll break down and buy one of the reprints for my Westy. Anyone out there got one of the originals for an 85 they want to part with?
Wildthing, not sure where you are located, but I've never been lucky enough to find a Vanagon in a boneyard anywhere near here. Here being the Atlanta area. _________________ 1985 Westy, 1.9L automatic (Daisy)
1996 Mazda Miata
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited
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mr_vanagon Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2005 Posts: 589 Location: Southern Illinois (GO SALUKIS)
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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What I never understood was why they bothered to make the fill neck extension but made it still 2" too short to pour a quart of oil into without spilling it half the time. If the tube were just a little longer, there would be no need to use a funnel.
Am I the only one who figured out that a 1/2 inch craftsman ratchet is exactly the right length and weight to hold the license plate door open (while I'm pouring in the oil) when placed on the door perpendicular to the bumper? _________________ '68 Autostick Bug Mom bought new
'89 Tintop Vanagon Dad bought new |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50351
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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mr_vanagon wrote: |
Am I the only one who figured out that a 1/2 inch craftsman ratchet is exactly the right length and weight to hold the license plate door open (while I'm pouring in the oil) when placed on the door perpendicular to the bumper? |
I just use the oil filler cap wedged between the bottom of the door and the body. Holds the door pretty much fully open.
You can also use the cap off the coolant overflow tank. |
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snowesty Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2005 Posts: 189 Location: Nelson, BC
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, either cap'll do. Figured that one out all on my own I'm so proud... _________________ Fritz - '86 Syncro Tintop, Camper interior
Toaster - '91 Multivan Westy, 4sp. |
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riceye Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2006 Posts: 1661 Location: Caledonia, WI
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Wildthings wrote: |
mr_vanagon wrote: |
Am I the only one who figured out that a 1/2 inch craftsman ratchet is exactly the right length and weight to hold the license plate door open (while I'm pouring in the oil) when placed on the door perpendicular to the bumper? |
I just use the oil filler cap wedged between the bottom of the door and the body. Holds the door pretty much fully open.
You can also use the cap off the coolant overflow tank. |
Agreed.
Unfortunately, the tube is too small for the neck of Mobil1 oil jugs. Gotta nurse it in. _________________ '87 Westy Weekender - daily driver on salt-free roads
There's gonna be some changes made.
“I find that things usually go well right up until the moment they don't.” - Ahwahnee
"Quality isn't method. It's the goal toward which the method is aimed." - Socrates, later quoted by R.M. Pirsig |
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zuhandenheit Samba Member
Joined: June 27, 2008 Posts: 846
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Damn! I discovered this just now, thanks to this thread!
I was sort of skeptical . . . like "well, maybe they didn't put one of those on the diesels. I don't think mine does that."
But it does!
Hopefully I can stop carrying around my cruddy oil funnel now.
BTW, that's one year of ownership it took me to learn this. And no, I damn sure didn't get any owner's manual. The PO probably traded it for velcro strips. |
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pete000 Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Ocala FL
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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I had no idea !
And I have owned two Vanagons... _________________ 1990 Vanagon RS 2.1
1967 Deluxe 21 window
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Koni Shocks
H & R Red Springs
Addco Sway Bars Front-Rear
18 X 7.5 and 18 X 8 OEM Porsche Wheels
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hiram6 Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2006 Posts: 1880 Location: Beautiful South
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:41 am Post subject: |
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As for propping the door open, that I did have figured out. I used to use one of the caps, as some have recommended above. Here's why I no longer do that.
If you are as clumsy as me, you'll eventually drop the cap in between the license plate door and the van body. On my van, there's just enough of a gap between my bumper and the body for that cap to continue falling into the back of the bumper. It's then a pain in the butt to work it over to one of the gaps big enough to fish it out of the bottom.
So, I took a wooden paint stir-stick, cut it to the right length to go between the top lip of the license plate door, and the lip under where the rear hatch closes (with license plate door open). Had to cut about an inch off. Then I put a strip of magnetic tape on the back of it. It stores perfectly on the back of the license plate door.
I used a wood stir stick with the idea that if it ever dislodged and got into the belts, it would just get destroyed, and not shred my belts. _________________ 1985 Westy, 1.9L automatic (Daisy)
1996 Mazda Miata
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited
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airkooledchris Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2005 Posts: 2711
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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kinda like being stranded without your gas cap key for the first time and finally realizing it opens just as well with a flathead screwdriver.
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spitsnrovers Samba Member
Joined: December 17, 2005 Posts: 924 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Hiram6, love your idea of using the magnetized stick.
I, too, after losing the oil filler cap into the bumper for at least the 3rd time was wondering what the H to do instead. I'll get the stick and hacksaw right now. |
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Volksbulli Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 364
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:22 am Post subject: |
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geeze you folks aren't observant at all!! My 82 came with its manual in cherry condition. I think I read about it there first. Occasionally the extension gets stuck to the cap and slides out. I use the oil cap to prop the door open and never lost the cap in the bumper. It still sucks tho cause I carry the one gallon oil jug with me and it still requires use of the funnel if you don't want a mess. _________________ It's a Volkswagen Thing, Even I Don't Understand!(o\|/o)
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82' A/C Westfalia
67' Typ 1
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parishollow Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2008 Posts: 79 Location: DENVER,CO
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Guess I wasn't the only to learn of this today! _________________ Andrew
84 Vanagon Westy 1.9, now a 2.1 |
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6247 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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I had absolutely no idea. I think that's now my new favorite feature on my van. |
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hiram6 Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2006 Posts: 1880 Location: Beautiful South
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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See, see, I knew I wasn't alone on this!!!!!
_________________ 1985 Westy, 1.9L automatic (Daisy)
1996 Mazda Miata
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited
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87Enterprise Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2009 Posts: 134 Location: sodak
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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You guys, When i first got my 81 Vanagon the kid at the gas station tried to fill the gas tank, thru the oil filler, because that how to fill the tank on a GM, Ford,???? |
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ddonnell Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2007 Posts: 373 Location: Sunset Beach
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Sadly,
I learned of this last night after, oh say, half a dozen oil changes........
87Enterprise wrote: |
You guys, When i first got my 81 Vanagon the kid at the gas station tried to fill the gas tank, thru the oil filler, because that how to fill the tank on a GM, Ford,???? |
Wow....
we got us a smart one!! _________________ 1990 Vanagon Carat-SOLD
1995 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 V10
1966 Baja "The Beast"
instagram #bajabugproject |
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foodeater Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2007 Posts: 1318 Location: Newburgh, NY
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I've had the gas station attendants lookin around back there for somewhere to put the gas in a couple of times too. I usually jump out if they linger back there for too long. _________________ 89 Bluestar-2.5 Subaru Powered-RIP
'84 Westy Tiico-daily driver-sold
'82 Caddy diesel-sold
'87 Vanagon Syncro-RIP
'81 diesel rabbit-sold
'82 Vanagon auto-RIP |
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FNGRUVN Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2007 Posts: 2237 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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This might be a good time to point out the rear seat prop rod or has that been discovered already. |
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