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JoelH Samba Member
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Never done that, but would tie a stout string to the brake line as you pull it out through the central belly pan. Then once the old brake line is out tie the string to the new brake line going in and carefully pull the new line through with the string while having someone help push the brake line toward you.
Have done simular routine when installing multiple wire cable through for gauges in a 1958 double door walk thru panel. Had to fish a coat hanger through first to run the string, and then pull the cable through. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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mightymouse Samba Member
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First off..wheres the leak? or shall i say, why do you want/need to replace them? _________________ Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.
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campingbox Samba Member
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The brake lines on belly pan busses run under the pans, so you can change every one of them without removing any sheet metal. |
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slow36hp scott wimberley
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JoelH Samba Member
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EverettB Administrator
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33 Willys Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: Brake lines |
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I would think that there are hangers along the way to prevent the brake lines from vibrating. If there isn't there should be! |
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KWZ Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Glad I searched before posting a new topic. I was wondering how I was going to do the brake lines on my '57 Standard....
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EverettB Administrator
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KWZ Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2004 Posts: 1341 Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Brake lines |
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EverettB wrote: |
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I would think that there are hangers along the way to prevent the brake lines from vibrating. If there isn't there should be! |
Yes, there are little holders on my '55 23. |
Gerson's center belly pans have 'em. The pans on my '57 don't because Kelly and I fabricated them long before God sent us Gerson. I'm going to have to improvise by concealing the screw head that fastens each holder behind the brake line itself. |
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rjonas Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2004 Posts: 644 Location: Chandler, AZ
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:27 am Post subject: |
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I am presently replacing 65 deluxe belly pans with KF made belly pans. I know the hard brake line runs on the outside of the center pan on the drivers side up aginst the flange but...I swear that 3 years ago when I removed the OG pans the hard line was held on with metal clips that were screwed to the flange. Now when I lay under a friends OG 59 DD panel his has small 1/2"x 1" long tabs welded to the center pan an folder over the hard line. Did they change the tabs when they went to shorter pans or is my memory just burnt and they were welded on tabs all along?
Anyone have a picture of 64-67 style belly pan brake line attachment?
I will be welding on the KF pans this weekend and need to know if I should weld on tabs or screw on tabs.
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1973 Type-181 Thing "Velma"
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Jerry Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Roy, the line isn't screwed to the pans at all, there should be tabs about 3/4" long that just wrap around the tubing to hold it in place. I think 4 holders are pinched in to the metal belly pans.
I've seen your metalwork, it may take you 10 minutes to punch them in if you see a pic of them.
Unreal job on your skylight fabbing by the way! _________________ Looking for SO34 parts.
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BulliBill Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Roy's metalwork and fabrication skills are incredible! He came over and checked out my original '59 DD panel belley pans today and was just wondering about the changes to the later pans in '65 thru '67. His 21 window Bus will be awesome! I'm hoping that he'll be able to debut it at the upcoming BNNTA event on Labor Day. All of us locals will be jumping on the re-assembly of it all summer. He has a thread on it on the Air-Cooled Missouri site...
Thanks to anyone who can send a few photos of the later pan brake line mounting details.
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Mission VW - San Fernando
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zimblewinder Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2004 Posts: 893 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Hi Bill, could you post a pic of the tabs and detail the positions? I have pre-tab Gerson pans to go on again one day.
CHeers
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14216 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Here's my '65's keeper-a-rookus'. Looks to be done during the stamping in the die with a cutter. Then the tab is ready to wrap around the brake line without an additional step. Rolling Stones stole their logo from me.
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rjonas Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2004 Posts: 644 Location: Chandler, AZ
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Bill's 59 DD panel has 4 strips of metal 1/2" wide and 1" long that are tack welded to the pan then folded over the line.
But...my OG pans do have 4 small arched holes (I thought were drain holes because the tabs are gone) like that picture so thats how I'll make them.
Figure I'll make a die and punch to duplicate that brake line tab doodad.
Thanks for the props, info and picture guys...so close to paint time I can almost taste it.
BTW...Jerry, what is your build thread titled on the Full Moon Bus Club? _________________ 1979 Type-2 Westfalia “Sandy”
1973 Type-181 Thing "Velma"
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rjonas Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2004 Posts: 644 Location: Chandler, AZ
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Well...I'm a dumbass...my rusty OG pans had one those tabs. Normally OG belly pans have (4) tabs punched in them for retaining the hard brake line to the rear. I made a punch & die from cold rolled steel. Punched tabs into the Klassic Fab center pan that was missing them.
Enjoy!
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1973 Type-181 Thing "Velma"
1956 Type-1 Beetle Patina Project “Rosie”
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kirbyland Samba Member
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pretty sure my '57 had screwed cli/hangers. Gonna have to look at my pics- |
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