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djkeev Samba Moderator
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Brickwerks Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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There is a more complete list here.
http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/support/44-t3-m-codes
I need to get back to it and finish it off. _________________
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4087 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Simon, couple notes on the M-Code list.
These come from my VW AutoMuseum "Birth Certificate" of my Swedish delivered 14" Syncro Doka:
M133 (still unidentified)
M218 Type label without West-Germany (whatever that means!)
M220 Differential lock, rear (which it has)
M469 Off-road package with reinforced spare-wheel pan (spare tire under rear seat)((this is a stock 14"))
M597 Battery 12V, 63 Ah (this was a gas DJ motor Doka)
Edit: Added photo. _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7916 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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MsTaboo wrote: |
M133 (still unidentified)
M218 Type label without West-Germany (whatever that means!)
M220 Differential lock, rear (which it has)
M469 Off-road package with reinforced spare-wheel pan (spare tire under rear seat)((this is a stock 14"))
M597 Battery 12V, 63 Ah (this was a gas DJ motor Doka) |
Added to the main list on page 1. _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4087 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Kamzcab86, the comments in double parenthesis for M469 are related to my 14" Syncro Doka only. The M469 applies to 16" vans also. (which use a rear spare tire rack)
Thanks. _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:53 am Post subject: |
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MsTaboo wrote: |
Hi Kamzcab86, the comments in double parenthesis for M469 are related to my 14" Syncro Doka only. The M469 applies to 16" vans also. (which use a rear spare tire rack)
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Oopsie...
Fixed. _________________ ~Kamz
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1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
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danbar Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2011 Posts: 464 Location: North Bend, WA
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:38 am Post subject: |
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I'm trying to decode my M plate but none of my codes are on the list. I've got the manufacture date and I'm guessing FR means it was delivered to France originally and the paint code but beyond that no idea. Anyone have any idea?
_________________ '88 SCA High/Pop-top Syncro camper
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a2d2 Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2013 Posts: 366 Location: EastVanagon, BC
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:45 am Post subject: |
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The sticker on the pillar behind my drivers seat is barely hanging on these days but it is still readable (for now) and these are the codes:
WV2XA0250BH etc... (VIN)
253 031 (253 = Kombi, LHD)
CV DK (CV = Air Cooled 2.0, AFC; DK = 4 Speed Manual Transmission)
L90D LL (L90D = Pastel White)
D06 D29 508 (508 = Sliding Windows on Sliding Door and Opposite Wall)
I was able to decipher what a lot of this information means by trolling this forum for a long while and also finding these links:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021204090737/http://members.tripod.com/perlindgren/m-list.html
http://www.vanagon.com/info/vin/index.htm
http://www.club80-90.co.uk/pages/downloads/tech/Intro.pdf
Thought they might come in handy to others looking at this thread.
I am still trying to figure out what the "031", "LL", "D06", and "D29" codes mean. I am assuming the "031" might relate to seating options, the "LL" to interior colors and the "D06/D29" to fabric/floor options but they are not on any list I can find so if anyone has any insight I'd love to hear it. _________________ 1981 Vanagon, Aircooled 2.0 AFC
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32584 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7916 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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djkeev wrote: |
I've noticed that the USA's Dealer system used a different option code system than VW's M Code system. |
They're not different, at least, not the ones I've seen (it wouldn't make sense for them to be different considering the Euro Delivery Program VW had: order your car at a USA/Canada dealer, go to Europe to pick it up). I've got M-code sheets (dealer created) for American-built VWs, and the codes are no different.
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I THINK ..... 425 is rear wiper.........
I THINK ......657 is Power Steering.....
I THINK ...... R82 is an audio option.... In my case a "VW Design" Cassette Player.
996 ??????? |
From page 1:
M425 - unknown
M657 - Servo Steering (aka power steering; same code used in most all '80s/'90s VWs)
M996 - unknown
R82 is radio type: Heidelberg IV - AM/FM cassette w/ auto reverse (same one my '86 Cabriolet came with). All "R" codes are radio-related.
There are numerous M-codes that have been lost to time; even VW doesn't have them in the archives. _________________ ~Kamz
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Team WorldTour Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 2426 Location: Der Vaterland
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:17 am Post subject: |
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I have done the M-Plate decoder, and I have a few codes that are still unexplained, or rather, unknown (at the bottom of the page). Anyone care to weigh in?
http://vw-mplate.com/mcode.php?lang=EN&id=6157
Check out the destination! _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
Click to view image
H6 Subaru Engine Swap Thread
WV2ZZZ25ZFH094138(x)/ WV2YB0257LH057308(x)/ WV2ZZZ25ZLG113270/
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Team WorldTour wrote: |
Anyone care to weigh in? |
R22 = radio type (have to look in my archives for the specifics)
Z25 = unknown
712 is an options code; the rest of the unknowns (ITI, ITJ, XS6) are most likely internal production codes and possibly specific for the German market. Be aware that there are numerous codes that even Volkswagen doesn't have records for, so some of those you may never find the meaning of.
I've added Z01 to the master list. _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
2016 Golf GTI S
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Brickwerks Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 214 Location: West Yorkshire - UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Updated link.
http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/index.php/t3-m-codes/ _________________
whynotvw wrote: |
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Brickwerks Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 214 Location: West Yorkshire - UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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kamzcab86 wrote: |
Team WorldTour wrote: |
Anyone care to weigh in? |
R22 = radio type (have to look in my archives for the specifics)
Z25 = unknown
712 is an options code; the rest of the unknowns (ITI, ITJ, XS6) are most likely internal production codes and possibly specific for the German market. Be aware that there are numerous codes that even Volkswagen doesn't have records for, so some of those you may never find the meaning of.
I've added Z01 to the master list. |
R22 Radio Stereo, Cassette _________________
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Brickwerks Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 214 Location: West Yorkshire - UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Okay you lucky people I'm posting this here even before I put it on my own webshop...
P 023 Pop-up roof in body color
P 024 Wardrobe and overhead storage box with integrated radio speakers (from Westfalia ) , required as a base for air conditioning in vehicles Westfalis
P 026 Independent motor fuel heater with electric fan and thermostatic control ( Westfalia / Eberspacher )
P 074 Overhead cabinets and wardrobe with Multivan with pop.
Radios:
R 01 Radio alpha mono
R AA Alpha Radio ( '90 )
R AC Alpha Radio ( ab'90 ) with window antenna
R 11 Radio Beta mono
R BA Radio Beta (from '90)
R BD Radio Beta ( ab'90 ) with window antenna
R22 Stereo Radio , Cassette
RCB Radio Gamma ( '90 )
RCE Radio Gamma ( ab'90 ) with window antenna
R82 Radio Stereo U.S. CR Heidelberg
S-Codes:
S 700 Tire brand ...
S 701 Australia version for vehicles with air-cooled engine RLKG
S 704 Type 2 United Kingdom
S 719 Tax number for preparation Oettinger WBX 6/3, 7
S 725 800 kg and 785 kg
S 725 at Westfalia comfort seats elimination of the standard seats in the cab
S 735 Promotions "Type 2 Blue Star " ( all X-Star and LLE) with color door mirrors , sliding window frames in black, cup holders , rear bench platinum with folding mechanism for sun-bed , folding table , interior = 39th Caravelle GL base model (FG 24K090001 - FG 24K095469 )
S 741 Promotions " Multivan Magnum " model with bumpers as Carat , front spoiler , protective cover for the front doors , wheel cover , light gray interior , rear bench with folding mechanism for sun-bed version. Base model Multivan 253 S
S 744 Vanagon instead TRANSPORTER lettering , faux leather cuff for gear , Carat - panel top, chrome window surrounds around instead of black
S 746 Caravelle C Coach
S 764 Conversion Kit for California version for Europe Operation (253 )
S 768 Ambulance light forward with Maltese Cross
S 773 Special model Caravelle (until model year 1983)
S 755 Bumper and protection cover in gray cloud model as Carat
S 779 Vanagon GL promo.
S 789 Operation indicator for vehicles with diesel engine
S 790 Catalyst with lambda probe and accessory kit
S 796 Air conditioning for Westfalia Camper USA
S 799 1.6 and 2.0 liter air cooled engine 24 D 000001-24 D 051 580 ( 245-256 )
Westfalia Codes
W 12 Equipment package joker3
W 14 Joker Club 3
W 37 for CALIFORNIA composed with pop : 050 , 054 , 058 , 102 , 206 , 219, 308 , 386, 425 , 430 , 433, 462
W 38 for CALIFORNIA composed with pop : 528 , 534, 550 , 552 , 561, 568 , 652, 657 , 675, 692, 693 , 950, 984, 987 , 999
W 39 CALIFORNIA for high roof consists of: 050 , 054 , 058 , 102 , 137, 206 , 219, 308 , 386, 425 , 430 , 433, 462
W 40 CALIFORNIA for high roof consists of: 528 , 534, 550 , 552, 561 , 568, 621 , 652, 657 , 675, 692, 693 , 950, 984, 987 , 999
W 41 However, as W40 without M621 (90A ) generator
W 45 Carat blenders
W 56 ATLANTIC consists of pop-up top : 050 , 058 , 219, 386 , 430 , 433, 462 , 534, 561 , 568, 657, 692 W Z1 519 , 675, 778, 787 , 928, 984 , 998, 999
W 58 ATLANTIC high roof consists of: 050 , 058 , 137, 219 , 386, 430 , 433, 462 , 534, 561 , 568, 621 050 , 058 , 137, 219 , 386, 430 , 433, 462 , 534 , 561, 568, 621
W Z2 519, 657, 675 , 690, 292 , 778, 787 , 928, 984 , 998, 999 050 , 058 , 137, 219 , 386, 430 , 433, 462 , 534, 561 , 568, 621
W 60 as W58 but without M621 (90A ) generator
W H4 ATLANTIC Syncro with pop-up roof consists of : 478 , 05, 058 , 219, 386 , 430 , 433, 462 , 534, 561 , 568, 657, 692
W Z8 ATLANTIC syncro with high roof : 478, 050 , 058 , 137, 219 , 386, 430 , 433, 462 , 534, 561 , 568, 621
W 62 Equipment package for Joker 1
W 63 Joker 3
W 64 Club Joker 1
W 65 Joker Club 3
W 75 Carat body kit all around in cloud gray with rectangular square headlights
W A9 infatuation with Carat
W B1 Joker Club 3
W G2 Joker 1 syncro
W G3 Joker 3 syncro
W G4 Club Joker syncro 1
W G5 Club Joker syncro 3
Z Codes
Z 01 Bad weather Package: rear fog light , intermittent windscreen wiper switch and halogen fog lights
Z 02 Equipment Package : tachometer , Digital clock , trip odometer , rubber strips on the bumpers , ventilation windows in the cab doors
Z 04 GL package
Z 53 taxi package
Moderator note: All of the above have been added to the master list along with a slew of additional M-based (000-900) codes. _________________
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Brickwerks Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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While we're all on a bit of a nerd trip, this is worth a flick through.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5851798 _________________
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geo_tonz Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2012 Posts: 1472 Location: Courtenay, BC, CANADA
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Howdy,
Hopefully someone will indulge me in a few questions about option codes as I try and track my van's geneology in a "just because" type expedition...
Where might one find the "W" codes mentioned? I ask because my 1989 Hannover Edition ("Canadian Bluestar") was finished by Westy, with a Westy tag on the kick plate but no W-codes are seen on the 3 tags I know about. Perhaps the "Type: 216 108C" on the Westfalia tag takes the place of a "W" code in these vans to describe the interior layout?
Generally I'm just trying to figure out this option code business as it seems some options my van has are not listed on either the under-dash sticker or the under-seat tag. Also another picture of a Canadian Bluestar dash tag on the samba differs considerably from mine. The codes on both the other van and mine correspond to options both vans have, but not all options are on either tag and only some of the codes are the same on each van. For example: both vans have central locking but only the other van has the 341 code on the tag. Neither seem to have 998 on a tag but both have the electric heated mirrors. Yet they seem to be spec'd the same (plus another Canadian Bluestar I've seen up close was spec'd the same as mine AFAIK). Granted, I don't know what the seat tag says on the other Van.
I guess I'm just trying to figure out the logic of the codes, which seem to differ somewhat from identical unit to identical unit.
Mine:
The other one on the samba:
The two codes not on any lists I could find were the "MPE" (Or is it "HPE"?) and "237", the later of which is on my seat tag and the other one's dash tag. Might the M-237 described the bluestar-type package and cover the missing option codes or would the M-526 "Luxury Edition Caravelle" cover things like electric heated mirrors, Heidelberg radio...?
I guess what I'm looking for overall is:
-is there a code that says this is a Canadian Hannover Edition ("blue star"). Maybe just the Type on the Westy tag?
-Is there somewhere that shows what specific list of options it officially came with to define it as a Canadian Hannover Edition
-what options (if any) were custom-ordered.
Quite possibly this is an exercise in futility but oh well!
Sorry if I shouldn't be stepping on a sticky thread (sounds gross), just seemed the most appropriate one.
Thanks! _________________ ---------------------------------------------------
"Ron Burgundy": 1991 Vanagon Multivan (Weekender) 2.1L Auto - Driver/Camper |
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torbot Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone have any luck decoding the ones starting with "D"?
I've got an '82 Westy (blue), and the M-plate decoder was only able to decode one of them (060 - Parking heater Eberspacher BA6 or DA6). Here are the unknown ones:
D21
D41
D82
D86
P27 (a google search suggested this refers to "full camper")
Any ideas? _________________ '82 Westy w/2012 Subaru EJ25 (AKA "Dave"). |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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torbot wrote: |
P27 (a google search suggested this refers to "full camper")
Any ideas? |
D codes are usually sales-related codes, as opposed to options codes; but D-level codes can be made up of one or more M-codes.
P27 = full-camper equipment as opposed to P22, which has partial camper equipment: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/82vanagon/page8.jpg . _________________ ~Kamz
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1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
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raptorcamper Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2012 Posts: 31 Location: England, UK
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I have a strange one here :
M085 Increase of standard designated fuel-filling
1.9DG 4 Speed 1988 |
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