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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject: SO23 Westy - Interior Limba wood restoration - roof / panels Reply with quote
Hi,

I am working to reproduce some bow for westy subhatch model and I wanted some help to confirm me the following dimensions:

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The ones I got on my 60 westy are a beat used then that is why I am in the process to reproduce a set for my bus but also make additional set available.

Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: westy Subhatch bow dimension Reply with quote
grailoc wrote:
Hi,

I am working to reproduce some bow for westy subhatch model and I wanted some help to confirm me the following dimensions:

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The ones I got on my 60 westy are a beat used then that is why I am in the process to reproduce a set for my bus but also make additional set available.

Thanks in advance


i have several spare bows. They are in two pieces. Did you know that? i will be transferring the wood, sub trim and hatch itself from my doner 1961 into our 62 sub-hatch in nthe next couple of weeks and will advise
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: westy Subhatch bow dimension Reply with quote
Ah OK then we have the same idea,

if you can keep me posted I would be interested.

I thought that the 2 pieces bow was the one on the rear side of the bus only.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Each of the the three side to side bows is in two halves with a key in the middle.
Each of the three side to side bows is different. Usually the rear one is good but the area around the leaky subhatch is rotted.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Clara wrote:
Usually the rear one is good but the area around the leaky subhatch is rotted.


Yep this is what hapened on mine that is why I am redoing the bows around the subhatch.
The bow on the rear side is in perfect shape

You are right also to say the the 3 bow are differents.
By 1st thinking we could say that the bow in front is the same as the same as the one on the middle but when we compare them we can see that these are totally different.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: westy Subhatch bow dimension Reply with quote
grailoc wrote:

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From the picture above, I did some measurement yesterday and I fall on:

B=K=Y= 25 mm.

Could someone confirm my result ?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: westy Subhatch bow dimension Reply with quote
finally I was able to reproduce perfectly the subhatch bow in the middle and in the front of my westy.

1st of all I have used 1/4 cheap plywood to reproduce the exact form of the bow to fit with the roof and the aluminium subhatch and inserted in between the 1/8 birchwood.
I have adjusted the form until I was able to isert and remove the 1/8 birchwood without any play and without too much presure too.

Here is a sample:
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: westy Subhatch bow dimension Reply with quote
following that preparation I have used the 2 model I did to make the final bows:

Here is the one on the niddle side:
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: westy Subhatch bow dimension Reply with quote
here is a shot of the front bow which has a different form than the one on the middle and the one on the rear side:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: westy Subhatch bow dimension - work in progress Reply with quote
Next step will be to reproduce the left side of each bow and I will use the one I just made as master.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
...nice pictures.
i have the day off today and want to remove the ceiling wood to expose the wood frame structure...looks like U are way ahead of me. Do you still need the dimentions of the wood? Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ZENVWDRIVER wrote:
...nice pictures.
i have the day off today and want to remove the ceiling wood to expose the wood frame structure...looks like U are way ahead of me. Do you still need the dimentions of the wood? Wink


Hi,
I will post latter on today the values I found and I have used to make my bows.
Then if you can come up on your side with the one you measured then we could make the comparison.

Thanks, Jerome.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I finally finished the subhatch bow assembling today.
The process to redo those bows was very long but I am happy of the end result:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
they look very well! good work!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here are them now into the bus,
the 1st install fit very perfectly:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
the trim also let the room to insert the wood headliner.
A 3mm gap in between the bow and the trim is necessary.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Next step --» Roof isolation:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
very nice work. that bow structure is a more complicated design than you would think. will you be reproducing these for resale, or just making them for your bus?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
StockNazi wrote:
very nice work. that bow structure is a more complicated design than you would think. will you be reproducing these for resale, or just making them for your bus?


Yes my plan is to reproduce some and make them available for subhatch passionate.
I have the 3 masters to redo the rear middle and front bow.
About the complexity to redo them you are absolutelly right, we don`t see on the picture but each bow has its specific profile and the width bow is not a standard width that you can find to your home depot suplier.
I have been forced to buy 35mm x 250 mm bow and cut into the 35 mm section.

If anyone is interested to get those bow, just PM me because I have planned to work on the topic within the following weeks.
Also if anyone has SO23 parts for trade this could be also a solution for a deal.

I will give additional updates when the wood headliner will be in place.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
yeah my bows are rotted out on my so34 i am sure they are all the same size design. At least i hope So !!

Keep up the good work !!!
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