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uffdakev
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 Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: Steering box clamp 13 vs 14 |
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The manuals say to put the '14' of the clamp on the 'lug'. There appear to be 2 lugs on the beam. I found one Samba forum topic that said to put the '14' to the outside. This seems logical since there is a single lug on the outside and a plate with a half moon protrusion on the inside. Just wondering if this is correct. This photo is of my old beam. The new beam is identical.
I have highlighted the 2 lugs in silver.
I wish I could draw arrows on my photos like others do.
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Bruce
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Your manual is wrong. As you can clearly see, there is a lug on both sides of the clamp.
If you clean away the gunk to better show the stampings in the clamp, you will also find an arrow beside the 13 and another by the 14. Install the bracket with the 14's arrow pointing forward.
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uffdakev
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Thanks Bruce
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Steering box clamp 13 vs 14 |
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After attaching my newly refurbished steering wheel, it seemed a little sloppy when turning the wheel and watching the tires move. I remembered reading something about the steering box clamp having a 13 and a 14 number stamped on it and that the 14 should be facing the outside with the arrow pointing forward, toward the front. SO, I decided to crawl under and take a look. Sure enough, the 14 was on the inside with the arrow pointing toward the back. Changed that around, and the steering now feels more responsive.
Can someone explain this to me, what the difference makes for the position of the clamp? I'm thinking the 13 refers to a Beetle and the 14 for a Ghia, but how does the clamp position correlate to the steering movement? The clamp looks exactly the same and fits into the tabs either way.
Another question, when I move my steering wheel it seems to kind of grind or make a grinding sound against the steering column mount, but I can't see it rubbing anywhere, could I have tightened it down too much, or can it be because I added a new turn signal switch and the brass sensors are too compressed?
Thanks for the answers.
Jeff
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c21darrel
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: Steering box clamp 13 vs 14 |
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Ok thanks for the explanation Darrel. Was I supposed to readjust the steering box then? All I did was flip the clamp the other direction, because I didn't move the box at all.
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c21darrel
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:21 am Post subject: Re: Steering box clamp 13 vs 14 |
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Good to know, thanks. Yeah my steering column went in and connected with no real issues and appears to be pretty centered at the exit point through the front wall.
It just pisses me that the people I had do the restore on my pan, a reputable VW restoration shop, either didn't notice, or they had some novice doing the dirty work and no one followed up in checking this specific item. Just goes to show you either have to do it right yourself, or follow up everything with a QC inspection on your own....wondering what else I should look for or will find.
I have another question if I may, there is a small amount of lubricant leaking out around the bottom of the Pitman(?) Arm, a reddish sticky stuff that kind of looks like power steering fluid. Does this mean there is a gasket or an O ring that could be bad, or that whatever lubricant is in there is too thin and leaking past the seal? I've been planning to re-lubricate the box with Corn Head grease as recommended in another thread.
Jeff
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c21darrel
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Steering box clamp 13 vs 14 |
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"I think everyone uses something different for lube in their box.  "
Ain't that the truth?
Thanks
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