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rascalvicfinn
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:19 pm    Post subject: Looking for Guidance with my Squareback Reply with quote

Hi all,

First time poster here. I picked up a '70 Squareback almost 2 years ago and have been chipping away at the little things. This is my first project car and VW so I'm learning as I go and would love some guidance. I'm hoping I can post more questions in this post as I go along, but I have some more time-sensitive ones to start with.

The basic info: I bought the '70 squareback with no engine or transmission. I bought a FI engine from a guy who pulled it out of a '71 squareback. The engine came out of an automatic but I want it to stay a manual in my car. From what I've read around on here it seems like the conversion is pretty straightforward. I haven't tried to get it to run yet but that all of that is a topic for another day.

My main question for now is really about transmission. I found a great deal (that happens to match the amount of money I was given for my birthday haha) on an IRS that the owner says in theory should be good, but he doesn't know for sure. He also wasn't sure what it came out of but guessed bug or ghia. I've been trying to figure out how compatible it will be and what I might have to change to make it work for me but I'm a little bit lost. Its cheap enough that I'm leaning towards buying it regardless, even if I can only use some of the parts, but I would love a more experienced opinion.

I've been sent a few photos of the transmission. I'll include some of them in this post. The numbers I can see in the photos are:
28
113 301 103
J
AH4057616

I found this number on my engine: U0446028

I'm really excited about this car, I just get a bit nervous from my lack of experience. I'm also excited to finally be posting here instead of just lurking, hopefully I can show you all some good progress on my little project Smile

Here are some photos:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for Guidance with my Squareback Reply with quote

Change the hockey stick to the correct Type 3 one and give it a go.
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PostPosted: Yesterday 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for Guidance with my Squareback Reply with quote

Of course, you'll need to find the right flywheel to replace the drive plate on the engine, setting endplay as you do.
Look for an automatic starter. It mounts the same, has a little more power, and doesn't need a bushing in the case to hold the armature (it's self-supporting). Price difference is negligible.
Keep us posted, and with more pics; this is a good recovery story!

I'm still laughing about the laziness of the sawzall job on the half-shaft! You need new axles changing to a stick anyway.
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PostPosted: Yesterday 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for Guidance with my Squareback Reply with quote

If you buy anything used like that, you're gonna have to do what Tram said. Shove it in and try it. But keep in mind, you might just end up with a core and will have to send it out to be rebuilt. These days, I think most shops are requiring a core for a rebuild, so if it's cheap enough, you might need it anyway regardless of whether it works or not.

You're in the right place. Lots of folks here that can help you.
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PostPosted: Yesterday 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for Guidance with my Squareback Reply with quote

Also, for drive axles you can use bug/Ghia axles and cv joints. Those are easy to find, and bolt in. Like Tram said, try and find a used type 3 only hockey stick (shift rod for the trans, as the bug unit will have the divot on top, and it needs to be on the bottom in a type 3. Also don't get an aftermarket one, as the bottom divot is usually in the wrong place (offset from center).
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