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PaulGinAZ Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 87 Location: Chandler, Arizona
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:41 am Post subject: Differences between RWD and Syncro clusters? |
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I have searched extensively for the answers to this question here and cannot find the answer. I am going through the federalization of my Tristar right now and one of the components that I need is a cluster that reads in MPH not KMPH. I have been told that the RWD clusters are not compatible with the Syncro clusters and that the readings will be way off if I just swap over a RWD cluster into my Syncro truck.
Can anyone confirm or deny all of this? I appreciate your help. _________________ -1989 Syncro Tristar TDi on Air Ride
-1980 Scirocco "S" with 16v Oettenger
-1996 VW Cabrio VR6 turbo
-2014 Silverado 1500 High Country
-2010 BMW X5 3.0 Sport (wifes) |
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vwlovr Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 1122 Location: on the road
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: |
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i don't know about the whole cluster, but the speedos can interchange. i have used several different 2wd speedos on my syncro with no trouble. |
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10078 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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As long as the rotations per mile notation is the same, it'll work the same. _________________ Shop for unique Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
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candyman Samba Trout Slayer
Joined: December 20, 2003 Posts: 2694 Location: Missoula MT
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:22 am Post subject: |
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you can not use a 2wd speedo in a syncro BTDT. it reads about 2x as high as a syncro speedo. as far as kph to mph i have no experience here. i used a 2wd speedo in my syncro and at 20 mph the speedo read 40. if you take it out on the highway you needle will bust off at about 45 mph |
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foodeater Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2007 Posts: 1318 Location: Newburgh, NY
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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the Syncro speedometer cable turns a different amount per mile than a 2WD. they are not direcly swapable. Right under the MPH text on the speedometer face there is a number that tells the number of rotations per mile.
If that number is the same on both units they will swap no problem. _________________ 89 Bluestar-2.5 Subaru Powered-RIP
'84 Westy Tiico-daily driver-sold
'82 Caddy diesel-sold
'87 Vanagon Syncro-RIP
'81 diesel rabbit-sold
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vwlovr Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 1122 Location: on the road
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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weird, i could have sworn i swapped my speedo with a 2wd one. |
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foodeater Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2007 Posts: 1318 Location: Newburgh, NY
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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vwlovr wrote: |
weird, i could have sworn i swapped my speedo with a 2wd one. |
Maybe you did and just thought you were driving really fast!!! _________________ 89 Bluestar-2.5 Subaru Powered-RIP
'84 Westy Tiico-daily driver-sold
'82 Caddy diesel-sold
'87 Vanagon Syncro-RIP
'81 diesel rabbit-sold
'82 Vanagon auto-RIP |
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ak_runner Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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A Syncro speedo turns at 1600 vs the RWD at 805. Used RWD speedos are plentiful, Syncros are not. _________________ AK_Runner
`87 Westy Syncro |
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vwlovr Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 1122 Location: on the road
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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foodeater wrote: |
vwlovr wrote: |
weird, i could have sworn i swapped my speedo with a 2wd one. |
Maybe you did and just thought you were driving really fast!!! |
ha, that might explain why my speedo is so damn loud.
seriously tho, i just got another cluster in hope of using the speedo since mine was getting noisy, but now i'll just take mine to palo alto speedometer. they said it would be roughly $120 to refurb. when i'm there i'll ask them if they can change the RPM on a speedo???
for the OP, will they actually -check- the accuracy of the speedo? what about replacing the face alone with a MPH to get it past then find a syncro cluster later? i mean the only thing that will be off is the odometers, and i can't imagine they'd test for that..but as my first reply indicates, what the hell do i know ? |
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candyman Samba Trout Slayer
Joined: December 20, 2003 Posts: 2694 Location: Missoula MT
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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hey vw lover,
if your speedo is just starting to make noise, it may be worthwhile to get in there and use some graphite to "grease" things up a bit. i did this to mine last winter as my speedo gets noisy when it is very cold. worked great and probably extended its life a while, worth a shot if you have not done this, will save you some skrill! |
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vwlovr Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 1122 Location: on the road
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:45 am Post subject: |
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candyman wrote: |
hey vw lover,
if your speedo is just starting to make noise, it may be worthwhile to get in there and use some graphite to "grease" things up a bit. i did this to mine last winter as my speedo gets noisy when it is very cold. worked great and probably extended its life a while, worth a shot if you have not done this, will save you some skrill! |
thanks, but i already tried the lubed up treatment. besides it was kind of erratic before that as well. now that i know i can't just pick up any old speedo i'd rather get it refurbed. |
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Syncro speedos are specific to the 4wd vans.
As stated above they turn twice as fast as a 2wd speedo.
I have good used Syncro speedos for sale from parts vans.
$225 + ship.
dylan |
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kguarnotta Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2004 Posts: 1160 Location: Woodstock, NH
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Differences between RWD and Syncro clusters? |
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thanks for this thread -
Just for clarifiaction - is the speedo the only thing different?
I've got an '86 Syncro that has had a Subaru EJ22 installed. The dash cluster is in not the best of shape. I've already fixed some items on it - but wondering at what point I would be better off spending my money on a whole new (used/better condition) cluster. _________________ -Kevin
Lincoln, MA
'86 Triple Knob Syncro w/EJ22
'78 Westy
'69 Single Cab
'65 Kombi - EZ-Camper |
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