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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:17 am    Post subject: 1945 typ 100 Reply with quote

Hi,
as we now here talk about prototyps and nice other things -
This is the only known piece from a 1945 typ 100 beetle
I found the chassis about 1995 in Berlin
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the weld seams, it looks like a std Beetle chassis that was shortened, yes?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With some weight in the back that would be the ultimate wheelie machine.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: 1945 Reply with quote

No,
they used a kdf kubel chassis
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of that model, what was its intended use? Its seems like they have over-compromised it by shortening it......
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is why this section of Thesamba became my favourite reading. Amazing things from the past.. thank you for sharing.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen this model referred to as the Road Tractor. It was included in the official factory chart of models the factory was capable of producing after the war, though some of those models were never built at all. This one was intended for rural use as a substitute for a tractor.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is that a trailer hitch in the rear? So it could pull some larger trailers? Now I see that the text reads "Zugmachine" that translates as "pulling vehicle"
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Wheelie machine Reply with quote

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With some weight in the back that would be the ultimate wheelie machine.

And so, why the different wheel,hub config's front & rear? Question Sure emphasizes the imbalanced appearance...but maybe a method 2 the madness? Idea
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps an Aircraft tow vehicle?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one of those doors in my garage. I didn't know what it was for, so last year I threw it away. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd think they would put the mudders on the rear ...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: Wheelie machine Reply with quote

Grant Reiling wrote:

And so, why the different wheel,hub config's front & rear? :?: Sure emphasizes the imbalanced appearance...but maybe a method 2 the madness? :idea:
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The hubs/drums are standard Kubel parts - "star-casting" reinforcement in the rear and smooth in the front.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would be the purpose of shortening it?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

small turning circle, shortening of the overall length of the vehicle with trailer?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The USAF uses similar cut down vehicles still today for towing aircraft ground equipment around on the flightline, you can get a heck of a tight turning radius with such a short wheelbase :
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The purpose of shortening it would be to make it more manuverable for farm use. If you're pulling a plow through a field, you have to turn sharply to furrow the next row. Remember, this was right after the war. The factory was experimenting with an agragarian application which wasn't entirely practical, otherwise the car would have been put into production. And the difference in tires can probably be chalked up to whatever the experimental shop had lying around at the time.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volkswagen would have been under the same rules as Mercedes I'd imagine, the Allied Control Council had prohibited the manufacture of passenger cars for the time being. They were producing pickups, panel vans and ambulances.
Also doing repair work on allied military vehicles.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Volkswagen factory (Wolfsburg Motor Works) drew up a chart in Sept. 1945 showing the types of vehicles the factory could produce. The chart was based on vehicles designed by Porsche before and during the war, and shows Beetles and Kubels, convertibles, sunroofs, van bodies, pickups and this Type 100 road tractor listed as a special model.

According to the chart, the only two models in production at the time were the Type 11 standard saloon and the Type 51 saloon with Type 87 chassis.

The chart is pictured on page 56 of "Volkswagen Beetle: The Rise from the Ashes of War" by Simon Parkinson.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very cool,any ideas on what the pillars dividing the glass on the doors were for?
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