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ftp2leta Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 3271 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: Motorcycle hitch |
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Hey, I'm not sure how to call those but i guess I'm close.
Anyone here have experience with those, any feedback? Handling of the van, ease of use? Comments? I have seen one today and they are very light, i'm impress. So Bike + hitch should be around 250+ pounds.
Don't worry, i have a very solid 600pds 2in van hitch.
I just sold my big race bike SV1000S and i will buy a small 225 pound 200-250cc dual bike and if possible i don't want to pull a trailer in the back.
No way I'm going back to Mexico next year without a toy bike.
Here some pic:
Thanks for any input. Or even if you have other solution???
Ben _________________ Working with rust, grease, dirt and dust is a sad truth.
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dobryan Samba Member
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mblotz Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2004 Posts: 296 Location: D-town, at base of the rocky's
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'm looking to do the same thing, only i want to do front and rear, probably 250lbs in rear and 175lbs up front (his and her plated dirt bikes) so i can do trips and be fully self contained. towing a trailer can really limit you sometimes as to where you can go, esp in someplace like baja.
i think the van can handle it, but do look forward to some responces with experience
ben--you should look at the kawasaki KLX250S, great bike for the size, out of the box street legal and easily modded for tons of power. or the yamaha XT225 is nice to (my wife has one for a dual sport). me, i will be putting a KTM400mxc rear and klx140L front, both made street legal enough to have a blast offroad, but can "legally" be ridden to the next trailhead. |
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Steelhead Samba Member
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Sodo Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Home made (still not painted, sorry for the ugly rust) I've been carrying 300 lbs on back of Vanagons for a long time, maybe 13 years, and it has never been any problem, (compared to a trailer).
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2497718#2497718
Tom _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
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ftp2leta Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 3271 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the comments, this is what i was looking for.... sorry, i have to agree that i hate to search!
Playing with the spring is not a problem at all, my rear end is already a bit higher. Nice home made carrier!
Mblotz, yea, the KLX250 is a very nice machine, perfect weight, good power, but sadly a bit expensive for me. I can't put in my head that it's 5k$ and i sold my SV for 7k$. I may have to settle for a use DR200. Even if i will miss the extra 50CC. There is a lot of nice use KLR650 but this is a heavy bike and not the best for off roading.
I'm very deceived about the range of use bike in the dual purpose line. I was hoping to see more 300-350cc. And nice 250 are off budget, well, i could take a loan but i don't feel like it.
Thanks all. _________________ Working with rust, grease, dirt and dust is a sad truth.
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fusername Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2006 Posts: 2897 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:25 am Post subject: |
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I was gonna say be carefull about adding all the extra wegith to the back of a car that is already back heavy, but all these kind folks seem to already have proven me wrong. I would still load all your heavy gear in the front for the tip to keep more weight over the steering wheels, but I guess its not a big deal. Those vanagons are heavier beasts than my 77, who does not appreciate such a loading. Highway you can just barely feel the difference in handling when I have too much junk in my trunk and passengers on the rear seats. _________________ [email protected]
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mblotz Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:30 am Post subject: |
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ben
the klx250s came out in 06, so i am starting to see them pop up used, just yesterday saw one for $2500. definately kind of a rare bike to find, but patience will yield one. i used to have DR350, it was a great bike, or its more modern brother the DRZ400. one of my personal pics is KLX250S with the 330 kit installed
I also have a KLR650, i can tell you for sure it would be to heavy on the back of a vanagon, to heavy for any serious offroading as well, if you want one though, i may put mine for sale soon.
of course up there in canada you have had street legal husqvarnas for several years now (we just got them in the US recently again) and they are REAL nice |
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ftp2leta Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 3271 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: |
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mblotz wrote: |
ben
the klx250s came out in 06, so i am starting to see them pop up used, just yesterday saw one for $2500. definately kind of a rare bike to find, but patience will yield one. i used to have DR350, it was a great bike, or its more modern brother the DRZ400. one of my personal pics is KLX250S with the 330 kit installed
I also have a KLR650, i can tell you for sure it would be to heavy on the back of a vanagon, to heavy for any serious offroading as well, if you want one though, i may put mine for sale soon.
of course up there in canada you have had street legal husqvarnas for several years now (we just got them in the US recently again) and they are REAL nice |
Thanks, yea, i will wait for a use one to pop up. Or maybe a XT225. The DR200 can't handle highway very well.
I also saw an old but rebuilt XLR350....
KLR650 is out of the question. Still it's a nice machine, i drove one last year in Mexico for more than 500 miles.
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presslab Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2008 Posts: 1730 Location: Sonoma County
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah you can see my XR650L in the link above. It's a big heavy bike but stone reliable.
The WR250R is the bike I lust after. Light, 30 HP - more than enough, but $$$.
My air bags are like the big trucks have, not like air lift. I do not have coil springs in the rear.
Handling with the bike is really no issue but I do take it a bit easier around the corners. The front end is lighter for sure but not dangerously so. The carrier works very well, very easy to load and unload the bike. _________________ 1986 Vanagon Westfalia EJ25
1988 Subaru GL-10 EJ20G --- 2000 Honda XR650L
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djbside Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2008 Posts: 114 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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With the passing of my father in Dec. I just recently inherited this...
I am planning on building a front and rear bumper with receivers on them... and then either build or buy a carrier to haul it. And it only weighs 265 "wet".
This is an awesome topic!!
Happy St. Pat's Day! _________________ Brandon...'83 Westy "Rose" |
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presslab Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2008 Posts: 1730 Location: Sonoma County
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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That Big Wheel looks sweet. Perfect for Baja beach cruising.
My van:
My rack is like this one:
http://www.ultimatemxhauler.com/
_________________ 1986 Vanagon Westfalia EJ25
1988 Subaru GL-10 EJ20G --- 2000 Honda XR650L
2010 Titus El Guapo --- 2011 On-One 456 Ti |
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ftp2leta Samba Member
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presslab Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: |
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ftp2leta wrote: |
That is interesting! Does it feel solid? I mean it's only attach in the center.
Ben |
Yes it's pretty solid. It moves a little but not too much with my XR650L, it's 350 lbs; with my small trials bike it doesn't really move at all. I use a draw-tite J-pin to attach it to the hitch so there is no wobble there. It also has a bolt that pushes against the hitch but I don't use it.
_________________ 1986 Vanagon Westfalia EJ25
1988 Subaru GL-10 EJ20G --- 2000 Honda XR650L
2010 Titus El Guapo --- 2011 On-One 456 Ti |
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djbside Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Presslab...
That Hauler is pretty slick... but at $380... I think I will try to build one instead. It doesn't look too difficult at all really.
But thanks for the slick idea! _________________ Brandon...'83 Westy "Rose" |
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ftp2leta Samba Member
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carterzest Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: |
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From the PDX Westravaganza thread and a meetup at Catherdral Park Oregon, this is a custom made trailer that backs up like a dream,. the wheel pivots and it makes the trailer an extension of the back of the van, thus, no jackknifing.
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presslab Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: |
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ftp2leta wrote: |
I found me a small cool little bike, but cosmetically it was not looking that good, not that a dirt bike need to but still. I didn't know which color is should painted. I had many left over color but i also had some from my van.... he he he.
The tornado red bike...... he he he, so i spend all day doing that yesterday, 9 hours later:
http://www.benplace.com/moto2.htm
Now i need to find a hitch.
Ben |
Now you need full bright red riding gear, you can swoop through town like a super hero.
That's a cool bike, like my 650L but smaller. Electric start, disc brake. I like the KLR fender better too. What kind of tires? I have TKC-80 now, much better than the monstrosities I had before.
How much did you get it for? _________________ 1986 Vanagon Westfalia EJ25
1988 Subaru GL-10 EJ20G --- 2000 Honda XR650L
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jackbombay Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:52 am Post subject: |
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fusername wrote: |
I was gonna say be carefull about adding all the extra wegith to the back of a car that is already back heavy... |
My westy has never been back heavy when I weighed it, its always very close to 50/50, an extra 250 pounds on the back would make it a little back heavy, but not enough to worry about IMO. _________________
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campism Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 4492 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ben,
The Super Sherpa is a popular little bike on the advrider.com site. Go to the Bikes area, Thumpers forum and do a search. There are several threads. I vote for keeping the paint original unless it is totally wasted. |
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