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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:43 am    Post subject: My Express engine Reply with quote

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Here is my new engine for my 54 oval.
It´s based on a 30hp industrial engine I took apart to check everything.
Then I out on a lightened flywheel and had crank blanced with flywheel pressure plate and the pulley mounted.
The engine specs are: Ligthned flywheel, Mr Okrasa cam, Crompression ratio raised to 8-1, all pistons and rods are weighed of to the exact same weight, express kit with 2 28 solex, fram filter and okrasa oil cooler, and a berg oil sump.

I had it on the dyno the other day and it made 43hp at 3600rpm an 90 nm at 2900rpm that is almost the same as when I was running a Judson.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beautiful vintage speed setup!!

awesome!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Nice! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Peter
You are the winner!!! I got 41 hp from almost the same setup, I have a slightly lower cr in my express.

Very very nice Laughing Laughing

Hälsningar Bengt
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the nice words guys!
I forgot to mention I run a 010 distributor and a homemade "Abarth" exhaust.
I also have 356 style pulley, and a 356 oil filler/breather on it.

I can`t wait to get out and drive it properly instead just taking a spin around the corner and back.
A very nice thing is that has maximum tourqe is at 2900rpm this is perfect as that is the rpm´s it takes when I drive 100km/h
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi peter, congratulations, nice detailed engine with some gained horses Smile

hope they will stay long and strong Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bengt H wrote:
Hi Peter
You are the winner!!! I got 41 hp from almost the same setup, I have a slightly lower cr in my express.

Very very nice Laughing Laughing

Hälsningar Bengt


Hi Bengt and Andi
I know you both run vintage speed dual carb motors.
Do any of you have problems with the starting when the motor is hot?
I believe it´s the heat that rises up into the carbs?!
I´m considering to make a plate to insulate from the manifold to the carb, so that the heat won´t rise so easy up there.

Help and ideas wouls be apriciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I dont have any problems with that on any of my engines.

Are you sure its the heat?
In the instrukction paper it says that you should have a copperring as a seal between the head and manifold to make sure that the manifold get enough heat!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter,
Can you describe what you did to build your 'Abarth' muffler.
Any photos of your muffler?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi peter, no i do not have had any problems while starting a hot engine, also on my engin in my 57 whre i only have a normal paper seal between manifold and head there are no problems.
what jet setup /venturi do you drive on the 28pci? (also per mail possible)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It´s not a real problem.
If I give it full thottle it starts in a few seconds, I have been told that is normal when running dual carbs from some fiends running big 2276ccm motors.

Andi I will send you a email later.

Sorry I have no pictures of the exhaust, but I can take some this coming week end.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn nice...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very, very nice. Excellent work.
I just picked up an NOS Express kit and I can't wait to install it.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks great Peter. Awesome!!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jawohl wrote:
Very, very nice. Excellent work.
I just picked up an NOS Express kit and I can't wait to install it.


That´s cool!
Were did you find it?
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It was brought to a VW club meeting and offered for sale.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great work Peter ! ...nice to see some vintage speed in Denmark !
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adjust your mixtures peter. If your hard starting warm, and WOT starts it, your way too rich. check float level, and readjust the idle mixture screws with the engine at operating temp. Need any help, PM me. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there.
I also run an EXPRESS in my 59.
Here you have a photo from it.
I have no problems starting the engine when it is hot.
Greetings from Portugal.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter_Plade wrote:
Bengt H wrote:
Hi Peter
You are the winner!!! I got 41 hp from almost the same setup, I have a slightly lower cr in my express.

Very very nice Laughing Laughing

Hälsningar Bengt


Hi Bengt and Andi
I know you both run vintage speed dual carb motors.
Do any of you have problems with the starting when the motor is hot?
I believe it´s the heat that rises up into the carbs?!
I´m considering to make a plate to insulate from the manifold to the carb, so that the heat won´t rise so easy up there.

Help and ideas wouls be apriciated.


I don't know if this helps; I once had a 1750 with dual 44 IDF's that I made some bakelite head/manifold gaskets for and didn't really have any hot starting problems after that. Something between the carbs and manifolds would probably help. Al
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