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calebmelvin
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calebmelvin
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Also, for the Dormobile "Bay models the elevating roof was moved forwards" and only left about a foot from the top of the windshield back to where the top starts. The Westys utilized the same hole that they used for other tops which was further back and centered over the sliding door, like his.
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These are real Dormobiles, notice how far forward the top is and the windows:
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914 mike
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Just pulling your chain....I am not sure if it does. I just remembered reading somewhere that dormys do that. Stove under there or something like that....I will check when i get home tonight....I dont think it does.
Bus does have belly pans and did come with gas heater...
I like you assesment.....westy with a dormy top. No worries....I like westy interiors and love dormy tops....best of both worlds  |
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calebmelvin
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Just pulling your chain....I am not sure if it does. I just remembered reading somewhere that dormys do that. Stove under there or something like that....I will check when i get home tonight....I dont think it does.
Bus does have belly pans and did come with gas heater...
I like you assesment.....westy with a dormy top. No worries....I like westy interiors and love dormy tops....best of both worlds |
Hey I am not trying to downplay your find, it is a really nice bus and is actually a rare combination even as a Westy. Congrats!
Clean her up some and try not to hack into anything  I would love to get my hands on one someday but they are few and far between...
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Here is another one which was bought up here close to me but unfortunately she sold it again and I couldn't buy it. Similar top but different interior, still a Westy. This is one of about 5 including yours I have seen.
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914 mike
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Hey I am not trying to downplay your find, it is a really nice bus and is actually a rare combination even as a Westy. Congrats!
Clean her up some and try not to hack into anything I would love to get my hands on one someday but they are few and far between...[/quote]
No problem! I appreciate your knowlege. I love this place and love learning about the history of these vehicles....
My plan is to slam it and paint it flat black with red rims.....
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914 mike
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| Awesome! I am reading The Culture Industry by philosopher Adorno right now in class and there is a part where he calls RV's Dormobiles because they are like rolling dorm rooms he says. Now for anyone in the know... who coined the term first? Adorno or the maker of the VW campers? |
I would like to find this out as well. When I tell people what model the top is they all want to know "what does 'door mobile' mean?
Caleb? Any help here? |
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calebmelvin
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| White99z wrote: |
| Awesome! I am reading The Culture Industry by philosopher Adorno right now in class and there is a part where he calls RV's Dormobiles because they are like rolling dorm rooms he says. Now for anyone in the know... who coined the term first? Adorno or the maker of the VW campers? |
I would like to find this out as well. When I tell people what model the top is they all want to know "what does 'door mobile' mean?
Caleb? Any help here? |
Although Adorno probably came up with the term first because his writings on the subject were done pre-VW Dormobile, they actually have different meaning.
The Dormobile we know and love came from the French word dormir which means "to sleep". Go tell your friends 
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fredster
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You can't move for Dormobiles here in the UK. Generally considered the best conversion, mainly because of the skylights and 8 feet of headroom with the roof up!
In the early 70's there was a disagreement between VW, Westfalia and Dormobile over where Dormobile cut the hole in the roof (more forward position as per Caleb's post). VW felt that the larger dormobile hole lowered rigidity of vehicle and if memory serves, after a certain date they wouldn't sell any vans to Dormobile for conversion. |
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914 mike
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just found a post on m-code info...I have some reading to do...
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Ok....cant find any info on m-code 793
Maybe its the dormy top?
Other m-codes:
A19 - 1971 package
094 - locking engine
096 - radio
119 - gas heater
191 - belly pans |
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White99z
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| Do dormobiles have a bed up top? Also, I like the looks of yours better than a true dormobile. The top looks funky so far forward on those real ones. |
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jbbrown
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Beautiful bus Bro! There is a Ex-Pat Brit who has a true Dormobile, (I think 1972), that drives in and out of our neighborhood often every summer. He keeps his Sailboat down at the local Marina . He has owned it since new. It is of course a Right Hand Drive which really makes it stand out around here. Very Cool any way you slice it.  
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Lionhart94010
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914 mike,
My Manual decoding, using ISBN 1-86126-765-7 a must Have for Decoding T2's M-Codes :0)
for 1971 M19 =:
020 = Speedometer & odometer in Miles
026 = Activated Charcoal canister
089 = Laminated Windshield
102 = Rear window heating
181 = Chrome Hubcaps
206 = Anti-glare Rear View Mirror
506 = Dual circuit Brakes
507 = Ventilation windows in cabin
511 = Padded Dash Board & Dashboard Lid not for RHD
517 = Factory Prepared for CampMobile Interior
524 = US / Canada spec Sealed beam headlights, Red Tail lights, Side marker lights & Backup lights
525 = US / Canada spec seat belts
for m-code 793 the book shows Factory Special Note Production number (changed depending on year?)
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Alan Brase
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Can anybody point me to pics of a genuine Dormobile interior with the bed extended? I've got a 1971 that is MOSTLY all there, but missing the table I believe the front of the bed must be supported by the table. Seems like a really lame design to me. It would really limit activity in the bed with only 24 inches above the mattress. :<(
This is a very strange vehicle. It is LHD but has FIXED vent window glass. Has belly pans. (Or HAD belly pans, more correctly)
I assume it was made for US sale, because it has US lights, not European ones.
(I know, I should post some pics.)
Al
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Here's my original British RHD low-mileage Dormobile for reference...
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Lionhart94010
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WOW She is Beauty!
Locks like as 71 :0)
It is the first time I have seen the Dormobile Stickers-
Thanks for Sharing…
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JLT
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Here's my original British RHD low-mileage Dormobile for reference...
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Beautiful bus! I think that's pretty much what mine looked like when it came from the factory (although it was a US model, with LHD and speedometer/odometer, etc. and a Westy interior.
I suppose that of all of us, you're in the best position to figure out what's up with Dormobile. Their web site is still up (and "under construction") but I've mailed and emailed them at the posted address without responses. Have they gone belly-up again?
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notchboy
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| RichOakley wrote: |
Here's my original British RHD low-mileage Dormobile for reference...
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Beautiful bus! I think that's pretty much what mine looked like when it came from the factory (although it was a US model, with LHD and speedometer/odometer, etc. and a Westy interior.
I suppose that of all of us, you're in the best position to figure out what's up with Dormobile. Their web site is still up (and "under construction") but I've mailed and emailed them at the posted address without responses. Have they gone belly-up again? |
I just read last month Camper mag that they were still going. Had an article ont the top with two old farts putting it on.
Rich nice og 71!
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