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TOOF Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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Does anyone run ATV tires on their baja bug? Im looking for some fun dirt tires for there 14" aluminum mag wheels I have. |
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bikesndbugs Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2015 Posts: 218 Location: san diego
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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anybody know a place to get cheap 7.00-15s for up front |
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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bikesndbugs Samba Member
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Brian Samba Moderator
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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Those look interesting. Ive always wante the Yokohama brand ones, but id like to see how those play out. _________________ Wash your hands
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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The tires LOOK good and should be quite stout. The price is good. It would be better for a Baja Bug or buggy if the tires were 4ply load range B or 6 ply Load range C. 8 or 10 ply rated tires are going to be quite stiff, which will reduce traction. They'll be strong though. _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
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heywebonya Samba Member
Joined: July 08, 2010 Posts: 823 Location: Portage, MI
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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Any opinion on these implement tires?
https://simpletire.com/bkt-5.0015-94020546-tires?s...AlJi8P8HAQ
They look cool and have a great price. I am concerned about the 6 ply. How would these compare to 700x15?
TF-8181 F-2 Front Tractor
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HikFab Samba Member
Joined: December 01, 2013 Posts: 34 Location: Garden Grove
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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^As far as I can tell the 5.00-15 tires are about 25" in diameter and 7.00-15 are about 30".
I am also in the market for a couple of front tires. I am running Yokohama Y720 now. The tires were pretty worn when I got them, but I found them to be a bit stiff and not turn all that well but, super durable. I would get the shaved verity but five hundo for a pair, ouch
The Mickey Thompson Baja Pro or Mini Mag seem to be an awesome alternative. America Tire says these are also class C.
Looking around I did find a 4-rib alternative link below. They are about the same size as the Mini Mags (E-78x15) 27" tall vs (6.40-15) 26.9" tall
Anybody run these in the rocks?
Still undecided
http://www.millertire.com/products/dune-buggy-tire...ent-4-ply/ |
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96bmw318ti Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2016 Posts: 1 Location: centerville iowa
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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Has anyone tried using dirt bike tires on the front of a rail? I have 165 r15's that came on it right now and i want to run something with alot more tread for the dirt and gravel. |
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Fenix Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2016 Posts: 468 Location: St Louis
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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My dad and younger brothers have a dozen antique tractors that run that exact tire. As a tractor front tire they perform as needed...no buggy experience with them though. |
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joescoolcustoms Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 9054 Location: West By God Virginia
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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Hey guys, I am getting ready to prep my fiberglass buggy for the '18 NORRA race and was looking at these Yoko's and wondered if there is any feedback on them. I cannot find much searching Google about them. I will run them on Method 7 inch bead lock wheels. Wondering how they do in the desert and rocks of the Baja. But also interested in how they do on the highway. I will be driving the buggy across the US to the race.
https://www.kartek.com/parts/yokohama-y829-super-digger-iii-tire-33-x-1050-15-tubeless.html
I will run the 7.00 X 15 front Yoko style bias that I am going to shave the edges for weight reduction and a more rounded pattern. _________________ Bad News Racing 2018 NORRA 1000 3rd in Class
Best Day Ever Racing 2022 NORRA 1000 2nd in Class and first All Female team to complete the race
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JWHracing Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2008 Posts: 234 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:14 am Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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joescoolcustoms wrote: |
Hey guys, I am getting ready to prep my fiberglass buggy for the '18 NORRA race and was looking at these Yoko's and wondered if there is any feedback on them. I cannot find much searching Google about them. I will run them on Method 7 inch bead lock wheels. Wondering how they do in the desert and rocks of the Baja. But also interested in how they do on the highway. I will be driving the buggy across the US to the race.
https://www.kartek.com/parts/yokohama-y829-super-digger-iii-tire-33-x-1050-15-tubeless.html
I will run the 7.00 X 15 front Yoko style bias that I am going to shave the edges for weight reduction and a more rounded pattern. |
I run the super diggers on all 4 corners and love em. light weight for a buggy but tall enough to gain some ground clearance. We have 3 cars running them on my team and have had 0 flats in almost 2 seasons racing on them. They do not measure a true 33" though, more like a 32" when mounted. I'm running mine on 4" wide wheels, non bead lock. We run between 15-18psi to keep from getting flats.
If it was me, and you have the width to clear them up front, and the big enough parts to run them, I'd do them all 4 corners so then you don't have to have 2 different size spares in your chase trucks. _________________ 65 Baja - Class 5 Unlimited Race Car
2021 STORR Pro Air Cooled Buggy Champion
2019 AZOP Unlimited Buggy Champion
2017 SADR 1300 Class Champion
2016 AZOP Limited Buggy Champion
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joescoolcustoms Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 9054 Location: West By God Virginia
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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JWHracing wrote: |
joescoolcustoms wrote: |
Hey guys, I am getting ready to prep my fiberglass buggy for the '18 NORRA race and was looking at these Yoko's and wondered if there is any feedback on them. I cannot find much searching Google about them. I will run them on Method 7 inch bead lock wheels. Wondering how they do in the desert and rocks of the Baja. But also interested in how they do on the highway. I will be driving the buggy across the US to the race.
https://www.kartek.com/parts/yokohama-y829-super-digger-iii-tire-33-x-1050-15-tubeless.html
I will run the 7.00 X 15 front Yoko style bias that I am going to shave the edges for weight reduction and a more rounded pattern. |
I run the super diggers on all 4 corners and love em. light weight for a buggy but tall enough to gain some ground clearance. We have 3 cars running them on my team and have had 0 flats in almost 2 seasons racing on them. They do not measure a true 33" though, more like a 32" when mounted. I'm running mine on 4" wide wheels, non bead lock. We run between 15-18psi to keep from getting flats.
If it was me, and you have the width to clear them up front, and the big enough parts to run them, I'd do them all 4 corners so then you don't have to have 2 different size spares in your chase trucks. |
Thank you so much for that input!
Have you ran them much on the Asphalt? I will need to run them 2700 miles to get to So Cal for the race next April.
Also, about how much does you Baja weigh? I am shooting to be below 2000 pounds without Driver/Nav. Weight does make a difference on tire pressure.
I do not have the upward travel clearance to run the 32 inch tire. They will hit my fenders.
Here is the buggy in Juneau Alaska. You can see the travel I have.
_________________ Bad News Racing 2018 NORRA 1000 3rd in Class
Best Day Ever Racing 2022 NORRA 1000 2nd in Class and first All Female team to complete the race
Everyone is gifted. Some just do not open the package.
Looks like it was painted with a live chicken,polished with a brick and buffed with a pine cone |
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JWHracing Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2008 Posts: 234 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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joescoolcustoms wrote: |
JWHracing wrote: |
joescoolcustoms wrote: |
Hey guys, I am getting ready to prep my fiberglass buggy for the '18 NORRA race and was looking at these Yoko's and wondered if there is any feedback on them. I cannot find much searching Google about them. I will run them on Method 7 inch bead lock wheels. Wondering how they do in the desert and rocks of the Baja. But also interested in how they do on the highway. I will be driving the buggy across the US to the race.
https://www.kartek.com/parts/yokohama-y829-super-digger-iii-tire-33-x-1050-15-tubeless.html
I will run the 7.00 X 15 front Yoko style bias that I am going to shave the edges for weight reduction and a more rounded pattern. |
I run the super diggers on all 4 corners and love em. light weight for a buggy but tall enough to gain some ground clearance. We have 3 cars running them on my team and have had 0 flats in almost 2 seasons racing on them. They do not measure a true 33" though, more like a 32" when mounted. I'm running mine on 4" wide wheels, non bead lock. We run between 15-18psi to keep from getting flats.
If it was me, and you have the width to clear them up front, and the big enough parts to run them, I'd do them all 4 corners so then you don't have to have 2 different size spares in your chase trucks. |
Thank you so much for that input!
Have you ran them much on the Asphalt? I will need to run them 2700 miles to get to So Cal for the race next April.
Also, about how much does you Baja weigh? I am shooting to be below 2000 pounds without Driver/Nav. Weight does make a difference on tire pressure.
I do not have the upward travel clearance to run the 32 inch tire. They will hit my fenders.
Here is the buggy in Juneau Alaska. You can see the travel I have.
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I drive them on the street occasionally but no more than maybe 50 miles or so at a time on the weekends. My car goes on a trailer to go out and play most of the time. They are a much softer compound than a traditional tire. My car is at least 2500 lbs if not more fully race ready. _________________ 65 Baja - Class 5 Unlimited Race Car
2021 STORR Pro Air Cooled Buggy Champion
2019 AZOP Unlimited Buggy Champion
2017 SADR 1300 Class Champion
2016 AZOP Limited Buggy Champion
Currently "retired" from racing |
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VagNaToOtH Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2017 Posts: 40 Location: NJ
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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i found these tires im thinking of getting their super affordable and have decent reviews. im gonna get 30 10 15 for the rear and 36 9 14 for the front what do you guys think? before i purchase thanks oh it will be going on a ecotec powered short back they have a poor rating for sand but i cant see them being bad i ride sand mostly. http://www.sedonatires.com/product/mud-rebel-rt |
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dirtkeeper Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2008 Posts: 3200 Location: Left of everywhere
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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VagNaToOtH wrote: |
i found these tires im thinking of getting their super affordable and have decent reviews. im gonna get 30 10 15 for the rear and 36 9 14 for the front what do you guys think? before i purchase thanks oh it will be going on a ecotec powered short back they have a poor rating for sand but i cant see them being bad i ride sand mostly. http://www.sedonatires.com/product/mud-rebel-rt |
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Those look like they will have great traction, maybe bust a transmission traction. Look like they would be ptrtty decent in the sand. Also looks like it would wear fast. |
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VagNaToOtH Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2017 Posts: 40 Location: NJ
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:55 am Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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dirtkeeper wrote: |
VagNaToOtH wrote: |
i found these tires im thinking of getting their super affordable and have decent reviews. im gonna get 30 10 15 for the rear and 36 9 14 for the front what do you guys think? before i purchase thanks oh it will be going on a ecotec powered short back they have a poor rating for sand but i cant see them being bad i ride sand mostly. http://www.sedonatires.com/product/mud-rebel-rt |
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Those look like they will have great traction, maybe bust a transmission traction. Look like they would be ptrtty decent in the sand. Also looks like it would wear fast. |
i see guys running super swamper tsl and boggers other guys running paddles u think these would have more traction ? also i am using a 6 rib ty |
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VagNaToOtH Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2017 Posts: 40 Location: NJ
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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These tires were posted earlier.
Such tire treads are good on a car where the traction is slippery and soft and loose, such as deep sand, like dunes, or deep slippery mud. But anywhere there are rocks, many types of gravel, or gravel/dirt combination, solid soil, pavement, hardpack, or grabby mud, mud with a bottom, or loam that will pack...All these spell big danger for gearboxes and other drivetrain components.
That's why lots of old school VW offroaders like relatively smooth tread tires. The Yokohama linked by JoesCoolCustoms are VERY popular for offroad desert racers. Also good for gravel, rocky trails, forest, etc.
The cost of beefing up a VW gearbox gets to $4000 REAL QUICK. A stouter Mendeola or Weddle gearbox costs more like $8-9K. And many offroad racers spend upwards of $25K on a gearbox.
That why knobby UTV tires like those at the beginning of this post are not so popular on VW offroaders. _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
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dirtkeeper Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Tires Tires Tires |
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Just got some new rear tires today. BF Goodrich K02. 30 x9.5 they measure out the same height 29" as my front Yokohama's 742s. This size works great with my 4.37 gearing and 2051 engine. My 65 -75mph freeway cruising has me in the mid 3000's rpms range, with good power still and I can crawl a little. My last bf 's had about 25k miles and probably had several thousand left before they would have been completely worn out.
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