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oorwullie
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok fine, all this stuff looks great in photos or on a sunny day at a summer meet but is anyone really planning on using these devices under the conditions for which they were designed?
i'd be pulling a fair way off the road and parked up long before visibilty got to be so bad. and in serious cold damp fog i'd rather have working gas or propane heater and a bottle of whisky than all that stuff screwed on my bus.Idea
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oorwullie wrote:
ok fine, all this stuff looks great in photos or on a sunny day at a summer meet but is anyone really planning on using these devices under the conditions for which they were designed?
i'd be pulling a fair way off the road and parked up long before visibilty got to be so bad. and in serious cold damp fog i'd rather have working gas or propane heater and a bottle of whisky than all that stuff screwed on my bus.Idea


Yo, buzz kill, chicks dig fog lights. Wink

But seriously, any added level of visibility for me as the driver and my vehicle to other drivers is worth it. At least a few times each month I am at the beach with the kids, surf fishing, kayaking or otherwise having fun...even in the "winter". Here is sunny California we often get a morning/evening marine layer at the beach (fog like conditions as it cools down). These lights will come in handy while navigating the coastline. As soon as I can find a nice red rear fog light I will put that on too.

BTW, I am pretty sure the yellow lens lights are illegal here in CA.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like the california of raymond chandler and my ghia came from san diego. i don't drive it in the fog either.

i might have some big red euro auxiliarly lights for you in my toys in the attic dept. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anchovy wrote:
.....BTW, I am pretty sure the yellow lens lights are illegal here in CA.


I have amber/yellow foglights on my bus. They are perfectly legal.

Colors of Lamps and Reflectors

25950. This section applies to the color of lamps and to any reflector exhibiting or reflecting perceptible light of 0.05 candela or more per foot-candle of incident illumination. Unless provided otherwise, the color of lamps and reflectors upon a vehicle shall be as follows:

(a) The emitted light from all lamps and the reflected light from all reflectors, visible from in front of a vehicle, shall be white or yellow, except as follows:
(1) Rear side marker lamps required by Section 25100 may show red to the front.
(2) The color of foglamps described in Section 24403 may be in the color spectrum from white to yellow.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine are pointed slightly outward. It helps to give you a few extras seconds to hit he brakes as the deer clears the fence headed for the road. Speak to the hand
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the vehicle code info.

Here they are installed:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice. The lights look great.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those look awesome!

Bet you had some major pucker happening with that first squeeze of the drill trigger Wink .
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
Those look awesome!

Bet you had some major pucker happening with that first squeeze of the drill trigger Wink .


Thanks guys.

Yes, I was sweating it when I put the bit to the paint. Next weekend I'll wire them up.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks really great! Nice work & good placement. Its a tough call drilling on your van, even if its only the bumper. :2gunfire: Looks nice though.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally got around to wiring up the fog lights. The relay and wiring came in the kit. I replaced the kit supplied toggle switch with a Bosch lighted pull switch. To secure the wires at the bumper I used spring clips that are used to hold trailer wiring in place and clipped the wires to the bumper brackets.

The wiring schematic called for a 16 amp fuse on the power lead to the relay so I installed an accessory 4 fuse box with a clear cover.

Fuse 1 is for the relay power, fuse 2 is for the silver socket/stereo switch and the fog light signal switch. Fuse 3&4 are 8 amp fuses for the left and right fog lights. I still need to dress down the wiring a bit but the lights work.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

otiswesty
[ Anyone have any better pics of the factory original front and rear fog lights than these I have found? ]

Here is a picture of an original set.

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Here is the grommet for the connection wires.

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Here is the part number.

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Hope that helps.

Some more info for yellow or white fog lights from Mr.Larry Gedney at http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF5/593.html changed my aspect to this matter.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to find the rear one and take a photo.

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The part number.

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It has a black cover for a later baywindow,I think the early style is chrome.

Here is the switch for the front and the rear fog lights.


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The part number.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow topaz, thats all nos stuff? where, oh where, do you still find that stuff!?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the time I am trying to find them at the basement.
Ive been collecting parts for our family bus a long time know.
Many of the parts have shipped to Greece from all over the world through TheSamba classifieds and other forums however you will be surprised if you try your local vw dealer.
When you find the part number through Etka then its easy.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rapid Parts sells the Hella European rear fog light:

http://www.rapidparts.com/cat/Lighting/6/5/
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sage79 wrote:
Rapid Parts sells the Hella European rear fog light:

http://www.rapidparts.com/cat/Lighting/6/5/


nice to find the right manufacturer and all, but $62 for some wire and a red lens to mount on the rear bumper is nuts. it doesn't look quite like a perfect match, but it's always hard to tell from the pics...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've learned the benifits of having a connection in the wiring under the body to allow for the lamps to be easily unplugged if you ever have to remove the bumper. I picked up a round 4 prong water resistant plug then smeared the connections with di-electric silicon which repells the water but still permits the conduction of electricity. Have never had an issue with the connection going bad.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOS German Hella ones are available if you are willing to look for them.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Front and rear fog light wiring diagram.

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If there is no space for the extra relay, an extra base part #531941845 (161937501B)?? can be adapted at the original fuse box from the right side.
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