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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: Rear tin question for those without heat |
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My 1915 will have a 181 shroud and a heaterless header. What are you guys doing for rear tin and pulley tin? The Scat pieces? Patching the original stuff? |
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DistrictBug Samba Member
Joined: December 14, 2008 Posts: 77 Location: West Hills, California
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Good question, I'm interested in what has been done as well. Also what's being done to block off the heater ports from the engine comp/back seat. _________________ Brian
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15309 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Use the stock tin behind the pulley. CB makes a Cal-Look solid rear tin.
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=273 _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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DistrictBug Samba Member
Joined: December 14, 2008 Posts: 77 Location: West Hills, California
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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So the heater tube holes in the stock pulley tin won't detract from cooling? _________________ Brian
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neil68 Samba Member
Joined: March 17, 2007 Posts: 3440 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: rear tin |
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I still use the stock rear tin, with Salsa lids plugging the three heater hose holes _________________ Neil.
Der Kleiner Rennwagens
68 Beetle 2332 cc, 204 WHP
12.5 seconds @ 107 mph
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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Will that piece from CB actually bolt up to the stock pulley tin? Can I put the pulley nut cover piece on? I'd like to avoid using plugs because the tin will be red. Unless I find red plugs. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76940 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:22 am Post subject: |
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I've got a Brazilian piece of tin that's the same as the CB... no fresh air or hear risers. It took some minor "adjusting" but it fits.
_________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Glenn. I think that was the one I asked you about last year. Are you using an original pulley piece too? Does "adjusting" mean a little trim or all-out hacking? |
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69 Jim Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2004 Posts: 6264 Location: Chickengeorge's Neighbor
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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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I ended up using the CB version.
http://cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=273
The screw holes were mighty close. I did have to lightly shave the areas where the piece butts up against the cylinder covers. It wasn't much at all, and fits excellent now.
The CB pulley tin, however, WAS completely useless. Flimsy, holes didn't line up, didn't fit snug on the engine. It's still lying around in the shop.
I notice a few subtleties in the link you posted vs. the CB link. I think the one I got was a Scat piece. It was made in Taiwan. Can't help you much further than that. |
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scott s Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2005 Posts: 1122 Location: Rock Hell, SC
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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I've used the CB tin on a few motors. Both the smooth piece (no holes) like Glenn has and the piece with holes for heater hoses but no heat risers.
I can pretty much echo what everyone else is saying: It fits nice with some minor massaging, mostly just elongating the holes for the screws. I did have one that had an odd triangular shaped piece of metal welded to one side....maybe for a F.I. engine bay?? I just trimmed it off and it fit fine. Pretty decent quality and it really helps clean up the look of a non-stock engine.
Here's a pic of the fully smooth piece and the piece sans-heat riser holes.
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69 Jim Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2004 Posts: 6264 Location: Chickengeorge's Neighbor
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies fellas. I have no problem with doing a little trim for a better fit. The issue I have ran across is that the aftermarket rear tin doesn't even come close to lining up or fitting the OEM pulley tin. |
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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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That's the chance we take with aftermarket. I would have run away the minute I saw Empi on it. The Scat piece will come closer.
My engine.
The piece I really wanted to be able to use is the pulley cover. Doesn't fit, unless I got a 40hp version instead of a 1600 version. |
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MinamiKotaro Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2008 Posts: 1039 Location: Somewhere in TN
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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I just don't run the rear tin. _________________ 1967 VW Beetle
2276cc
MegaSquirt-extra v3.57
Check out my ongoing story. |
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69 Jim Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2004 Posts: 6264 Location: Chickengeorge's Neighbor
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Sigurd wrote: |
That's the chance we take with aftermarket. I would have run away the minute I saw Empi on it. The Scat piece will come closer.
My engine.
The piece I really wanted to be able to use is the pulley cover. Doesn't fit, unless I got a 40hp version instead of a 1600 version. |
Ahh, good tip, thanks. Is that a Thing shroud and oem cyl. tins? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76940 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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69 Jim wrote: |
Is that a Thing shroud and oem cyl. tins? |
It looks like a 40hp Stale Air, non-Dog House.
Thing tin is OEM so cylinder tins fits.
_________________ Glenn
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69 Jim Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2004 Posts: 6264 Location: Chickengeorge's Neighbor
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
69 Jim wrote: |
Is that a Thing shroud and oem cyl. tins? |
It looks like a 40hp Stale Air, non-Dog House.
Thing tin is OEM so cylinder tins fits.
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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
69 Jim wrote: |
Is that a Thing shroud and oem cyl. tins? |
It looks like a 40hp Stale Air, non-Dog House. |
It is in fact a Thing and OEM cylinder tins. Doghouse is on the back, and you don't want to know how much I paid for it... |
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Chris W Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2003 Posts: 267 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with the above. It fits fine with some work.
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69 Jim Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2004 Posts: 6264 Location: Chickengeorge's Neighbor
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Sigurd wrote: |
Glenn wrote: |
69 Jim wrote: |
Is that a Thing shroud and oem cyl. tins? |
It looks like a 40hp Stale Air, non-Dog House. |
It is in fact a Thing and OEM cylinder tins. Doghouse is on the back, and you don't want to know how much I paid for it... |
Just scored an extra clean unit a few weeks ago here on the Samba after watching for a deal for quite a while. Hell, it's only money.... |
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