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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:10 am    Post subject: 2.0 L Distributor Reply with quote

I have recently converted a 1974 Bay Window Riviera from a 1700 cc to a 2000 cc (1982 crate motor) with Kadrons and am wondering what the correct distributor (dual vacuum) would be to run on this engine set-up. The engine runs ok at highway speeds after it reaches those speeds but is sluggish at start-up and accelerates too slowly which I am attributing to improper advance curve. The distributor on the engine now is a 009 with points/condenser. The timing has been set according to factory specs and all other adjustments have been made. The engine performs similar to the 1600 single port that I had in my 1969 Bay Window that had the same distributor...Sluggish off idle and through acceleration but ok at highway speed, except trying to accelerate quickly. The 1600 of course should have had a vacuum diaphragm. I think that the 2.0 with carburetion should also but I am wanting the correct model distributor (preferably an original Bosch) so the advance curve will agree with the engine. Thanks for any assistance with this issue. BTW, the camshaft/valve train are stock for the 1982 Vanagon from the factory.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would want a single vacuum distributor.

Vanagon Federal 1980-1983 * 2000

Note: This Distributor also fits Type 4 (412) 1974
Distributor: VW 022-905-205S, Bosch 0231 170 093
Note: VW 021-905-205P, Bosch 022-905-205S, 0231 168 005
Can Use:
Points: 01 011
Condensor: 02 074
Rotor: 04 033
Dust Cover: 039-905-241, Bosch 1230 500 139 > 1230 500 147
Cap: 03 010
Distributor Cap Clip: 034-905-265, Bosch 1231 251 033
Parts Kit (Shims, Washers & Hardware): 059-998-211, Bosch 1237 010 007
Coil: 00 012
Vacuum Can: 07 060
Ignition Wires: 09 171
Spark Plug: W8CC
Timing Set At:: 7.5deg BTDC @ 850-950 rpm (Man Trans), 900-1000 rpm (Auto Trans) w/strobe, vacuum hose connected. (Bentley Table on Page 28.3 incorrectly states with hose disconnected).
Advance/Retard Range: Vacuum: 8-12deg Adv @ 7.9 In. Hg; Centrifugal: 9-14deg @ 1600 rpm, 21-25deg @ 3400 rpm

Check out http://www.oldvolkshome.com/ovhignbo.htm and http://www.oldvolkshome.com/ignition.htm#V8083FD

It has some good info
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 009 was not a "factory" disrtributor so there is no "factory spec" for timing it.
use a strobe and set it to 30 degrees BTDC at max advance.

are your kads ported for vacuum?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use a programmable distributor (like a 123ignition or CB Blackbox) with vacuum connection (if you have ported vacuum on your Kadrons). Take the curve of a CT, CV or CU engine as a start (205P) is also close. Don't use old distributors with old vacuum cans because the will not be accurate anymore (old worn springs/diaframs). And avoid dual vacuum cans if your are not bound to emissions laws: they will make your engine harder to start.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NobyDoby wrote:
Use a programmable distributor (like a 123ignition or CB Blackbox) with vacuum connection (if you have ported vacuum on your Kadrons). Take the curve of a CT, CV or CU engine as a start (205P) is also close. Don't use old distributors with old vacuum cans because the will not be accurate anymore (old worn springs/diaframs). And avoid dual vacuum cans if your are not bound to emissions laws: they will make your engine harder to start.


I read through your old posts and found it quite helpful that you were able to pick up a lot of torque and driveability out of your van through the distributor. I am considering this distributor too now. - Is it fully programmable, in the case I wanted to upgrade my fuel system in the future?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 L Distributor Reply with quote

It is programmable by changing two curves (mechanical & vacuum). It doesn't have a programmable map that can be combined with a fuel injection map. Nor can it be connected to a programmable fuel system. It's completely standalone.
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Original VW CU Bus Hydro Cam w/Febi Hydro Followers
Dual Dellorto's DRLA 40 - 32 Venturi's
SyncLink Throttle System
MSS Central Airfilter
123Ignition Tune & NGK BP6ET
Vintage Speed Dual Side Super Flow Type 4 Exhaust
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