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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:27 pm    Post subject: charge cooler. mtdi. Reply with quote

hi guys, need a charger cooler for the mtdi and i`m concidering this kit

http://www.frozenboost.com/product_info.php?cPath=...815f4aa74e

any opinions on this or possible this cooler.

http://www.frozenboost.com/product_info.php?cPath=...815f4aa74e

never imported anything from us before but it`s got to work out cheaper than buying in the uk.

thanks in advance. lee.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not use the pump in the first link.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First link - both the pump and the radiator are junk. I'd recommend one of the purpose-built Bosch intercooler pumps and a true water radiator, not the cheap steel-painted-to-look-like-aluminum oil cooler shown.

Second link, don't bother, not as efficient as the first design.

Oh- and for the radiator to be of any use - it must be placed in the nose of the van where it receives hi-pressure airflow.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my biggest issue is space as i`ve used the tdi manifolds. the small barrel cooler will fit a treat but i`m not sure i can get the bigger unit to fit.

the only way i can see to incorporate a charge cooler, enclosed air filter and the dust trap is to run the air intake over to the right side of the engine bay.

anyone know what sort of rating i should be aiming for. guessing i`ll be making 110 / 120hp max ahu mti.

thanks lee.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=411216&highlight=intercooler
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers. neat install. mine`s a syncro so the fuel tank is in the way to fit there. i`ll have to mock up a dummy cooler and see where i can fit it in. thanks again lee.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had to do it again i'd go with a barrel cooler mounted between the intake & the sheetmetal. Less plumbing, less chance of boost leaks & just all around 100% easier.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to mention, less efficient. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi karl are you saying the barrel coolers are less efficient. what way have gone with your westy syncro.

cheers lee.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the Turbonetics 2-252 but that one seems NLA, so have started using the smallest unit from frozenboost/siliconeintakes, the 'Type 9'. The last one I built would deliver intake air to the engine within 30 degrees F. of ambient at even the highest summer temps here.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks. just reading through your web site.

its a good read.

lee.
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