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scottjk Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2006 Posts: 485 Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: Truck Fridge TF49 - To AC or not to AC |
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Can anyone think of any large advantage of getting the ac/dc model over the plain dc model? I'll be running the fridge off a 55-65 deep cycle batter with a Battery Minder+ hooked up when connected to AC power. I'm assuming that the Batter Minder would keep up as well as charge the battery at the same time.
The AC/DC TF-49 is on back order for 30 days and will be more expensive. They don't know how much more at this point. I just don't want to buy something now that I wished I would have waited for. I can't think of any compelling reasons not to just stick with the full DC model.
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Scott |
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singler3360 Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2009 Posts: 1191 Location: Corvallis, Oregon
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:30 am Post subject: |
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I just posed this exact question to guru Tencentlife, 1621 and others over at this thread. Scroll down to last 3 posts (as of this date/time).
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=355311
Thanks for the info on the backorder and let us know what you decide. |
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:37 am Post subject: |
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I would take advantage of the AC circuit.
That's just me though.
The current draw is low enough on these units that it really doesn't matter which way you do it.
Strict DC would make your wiring easier to sort out. _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
~ Cullen Hightower
(T)exas (C)oalition (B)uses
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9923 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Truck Fridge TF49 - To AC or not to AC |
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I would not bother with AC but that is just me. I seldom camp where AC is available and even in those places it often costs less to camp in a site without and that also tends to put me away from the giant RV crowd which is a good thing.
I think the AC wiring in general is a net minus for the Westy, ditto for the city water hookup.
If you do get an AC option on the fridge you can just let the cord stick out a little behind the driver seat so you can plug it into an extension cord should the desire strike.
Mark
scottjk wrote: |
Can anyone think of any large advantage of getting the ac/dc model over the plain dc model? I'll be running the fridge off a 55-65 deep cycle batter with a Battery Minder+ hooked up when connected to AC power. I'm assuming that the Batter Minder would keep up as well as charge the battery at the same time.
The AC/DC TF-49 is on back order for 30 days and will be more expensive. They don't know how much more at this point. I just don't want to buy something now that I wished I would have waited for. I can't think of any compelling reasons not to just stick with the full DC model.
Thanks
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billwilson Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2009 Posts: 171 Location: San Clemente, CA
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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as a solar power kinda guy i STILL got the AC with my TF
someday, maybe not soon
maybe not in this Galaxy, i will wish i had spent the extra $20
so Big Spender that i am, i got the AC/DC _________________ '84 Wolfsberg Westy
Shore Power Free since 10 Apr 09
well i was untill 01 Jun 09......
.... but only after 6 days of no sun
16' rims / WBX
Fiamma, 130 watt solar, 198 amp hour batts
Truck Fridge, Coco Mats
and of course:
the hard mount for my Pith Helmet! |
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OldSkoolVWLover Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2006 Posts: 82
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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billwilson wrote: |
as a solar power kinda guy i STILL got the AC with my TF
someday, maybe not soon
maybe not in this Galaxy, i will wish i had spent the extra $20
so Big Spender that i am, i got the AC/DC |
My thought as well.... may never use the AC but for the small extra investment compared to the total cost of the unit, why not add the option. In the long run that lil bit of extra cash isn't gonna make a big difference. _________________ EarlyWatercooled.org
00 MK3.5 Golf Vert__00 Turbo Beetle__81 Rabbit
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82WestyMan Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2006 Posts: 1098 Location: Western OR
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: Truck Fridge TF49 - To AC or not to AC |
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scottjk wrote: |
Can anyone think of any large advantage of getting the ac/dc model over the plain dc model? ... |
because it leaves your options open for the future
situations tend to change over time and usually in ways you didn't anticipate _________________ "The floggings will continue until morale improves"
"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell" - Harry S. Truman
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Truck Fridge TF49 - To AC or not to AC |
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82WestyMan wrote: |
scottjk wrote: |
Can anyone think of any large advantage of getting the ac/dc model over the plain dc model? ... |
because it leaves your options open for the future
situations tend to change over time and usually in ways you didn't anticipate |
My thoughts exactly.
I love flexibility.
Hence the natural gravitational pull of a Westfalia. _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
~ Cullen Hightower
(T)exas (C)oalition (B)uses
(H)eidenhammer (B)ully (B)oyz
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singler3360 Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2009 Posts: 1191 Location: Corvallis, Oregon
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Linux on Wheels. Decide the features you want, find the mod to do it, research it, then install. Reboot once every 100k miles. |
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Blood Loss Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2008 Posts: 129 Location: Baltimore
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'd just go for the DC model and carry a small battery charger in case the campsite has AC electricity, so I wouldn't have to drive around to recharge the battery.
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6245 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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AC is good to plug in at home and pre cool the unit. Is that necessary with the truck fridge? |
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scottjk Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2006 Posts: 485 Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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PDXWesty wrote: |
AC is good to plug in at home and pre cool the unit. Is that necessary with the truck fridge? |
I don't believe 'pre-cooling' is necessary with these efficient fridges unlike the Dometic.
At this point I wish they had the ac/dc version in stock but they don't. The price for the ac/dc model will be higher according to TF but they don't know how much until the end of this month.
The bottom line for me though is that every time I hook up to AC power the battery will be getting a charge from the Battery Minder+ so it might be a moot point.
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6245 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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How many amps will you be charging at when you're plugged in?
I think it would be fine. You slow your charging time but I bet you'll hardly notice. |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9923 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Last summer we traveled and camped for 6 weeks and never charged our batteries other than from driving. We have an electric only Norcold, running on 2 ordinary Group48 batteries in parallel. These are the same as 41 but slightly less long so a bit easier to get into the boxes under the seats. Our starting battery is in the engine compartment, another 48 type.
We parked for 3 days and 4 nights as the maximum in one place without driving. The batteries were fine for this long, day temps in the 90s. We camped again last week at SDM, 3 days and 3 nights, same batteries.
The Group48 are from Wmart, $65 near me, 6 year prorated, 2 year free exchange.
Mark
scottjk wrote: |
PDXWesty wrote: |
AC is good to plug in at home and pre cool the unit. Is that necessary with the truck fridge? |
I don't believe 'pre-cooling' is necessary with these efficient fridges unlike the Dometic.
At this point I wish they had the ac/dc version in stock but they don't. The price for the ac/dc model will be higher according to TF but they don't know how much until the end of this month.
The bottom line for me though is that every time I hook up to AC power the battery will be getting a charge from the Battery Minder+ so it might be a moot point.
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OldSkoolVWLover Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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crazyvwvanman wrote: |
The Group48 are from Wmart, $65 near me, 6 year prorated, 2 year free exchange.
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After burning thru a couple batteries in parked cars, I will only buy Wal-Mart batteries. Decent price, good function, and if it can't hold a charge when I forget to drive or disconnect, I can replace it. _________________ EarlyWatercooled.org
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scottjk Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2006 Posts: 485 Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: Pulled the trigger.... |
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So I decided to buy the Vitrifrigo ac/dc model. According to Andrew this was the last one they had. He said that this model was going up to $599.00 so I would assume the new price of the TF ac/dc will be around $450.00 which will be available again in about 30 days.
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woggs1 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2007 Posts: 531 Location: South Pacifica California
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Pulled the trigger.... |
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scottjk wrote: |
So I decided to buy the Vitrifrigo ac/dc model. According to Andrew this was the last one they had. He said that this model was going up to $599.00 so I would assume the new price of the TF ac/dc will be around $450.00 which will be available again in about 30 days.
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FYI
The new price for the TF49 is $529, up from $499. Shipping to NorCal is $70. They are backordered until mid june 2009.
They still have the Vitrifrigo AC/DC model in stock for $545 as of today. _________________ 4 speed 88 Westy |
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rockfish Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2007 Posts: 740 Location: Palo Alto, Calif.
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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My TF came in about 10 days ago - was ordered a month ago. _________________ 89 Westy
GW 2.5 5-speed trans
"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts."
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82WestyMan Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2006 Posts: 1098 Location: Western OR
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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I just finished putting in my AC/DC truck fridge before heading up to BugOut 65 over Memorial Day weekend.
The day of the show, I stopped to pick up something to make for dinner and tossed a 1-lb bag fo frozen shrimp in the little freezer compartment early in the morning
All thru the show I ran my little Honda 650 (at the end of the 100 ft / 12 gauge extension cord) but never got around to making dinner.
Headed home and got in about 2am and fell into bed
Next day, about noon, I headed out to clean up / out the Westy and those little shrimps were still rock-hard when I pulled them out
What a difference from my old Dometic
oh, forgot to mention, my truck fridge held about 38 in the main compartment that whole time
(and yes, i had fridge thermometer in) _________________ "The floggings will continue until morale improves"
"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell" - Harry S. Truman
82 Westfalia - w/ a Raby 'Camper Special' engine
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woggs1 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2007 Posts: 531 Location: South Pacifica California
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:47 am Post subject: |
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rockfish wrote: |
My TF came in about 10 days ago - was ordered a month ago. |
I ordered the Vitrifrigo yesterday, and he told me it would be here Tuesday or Wednesday. I will see. _________________ 4 speed 88 Westy |
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