Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts New!  See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Help Needed....Radius Arm Bushing Sleeve Replacement?
Page: 1, 2  Next
Forum Index -> Vanagon Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
PDXWesty
Samba Member


Joined: April 11, 2006
Posts: 5772
Location: Portland OR
PDXWesty is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Help Needed....Radius Arm Bushing Sleeve Replacement? Reply with quote

This part is NLA from vendors and VW. Mine are almost dust and I'm going to rebuild my front end. Has anyone had to replace this? What did you use? I think a piece of pipe the right size would work but I wondered if anyone else has come up with something the correct size.

Van Cafe said they are searching for a replacement but haven't come up with anything.

Thanks!

http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van_1244479401810/page_309_1003/radius_arm_bushing_sleeve.html


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
89 Westy 2.1 Auto


Last edited by PDXWesty on Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:43 pm; edited 3 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
syncrosimon
Samba Member


Joined: November 20, 2008
Posts: 257
Location: Devon, England
syncrosimon is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got mine from Brickwerks in the UK.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


The dimensions of the piece were discussed on club 80-90. Cant find them though but will keep looking. Easy for a machine shop to make.

http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/index.php?page=shop.pr...p;Itemid=6
_________________
1991 16" 2.1 DJ Syncro factory hightop ex Finnish Army Ambulance, now sold.
Thinking about Thing or 181 (182) ownership.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
insyncro
Banned


Joined: March 07, 2002
Posts: 15087
Location: New York
insyncro is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am currently working on having these and other sleeves in the Vanagon suspension produced in stainless steel.
My partner needs the exact specs of a new sleeve and he will make them.
We are waiting on new sleeves from another source to reproduce.

Our target price will be $15-$20 a sleeve at the moment.

I will keep this thread informed as too how we are making out.

If anyone has this sleeve brand new and is willing to measure it and or will ship it to me so I can measure it, I will pay shipping and give them a set of stainless sleeves once produced.

dylan
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
crazyvwvanman
Samba Member


Joined: January 28, 2008
Posts: 8842
Location: Orbiting San Diego
crazyvwvanman is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure I have a set or 2 of new ones on hand. Do you still need measurements?

Mark


insyncro wrote:
I am currently working on having these and other sleeves in the Vanagon suspension produced in stainless steel.
My partner needs the exact specs of a new sleeve and he will make them.
We are waiting on new sleeves from another source to reproduce.

Our target price will be $15-$20 a sleeve at the moment.

I will keep this thread informed as too how we are making out.

If anyone has this sleeve brand new and is willing to measure it and or will ship it to me so I can measure it, I will pay shipping and give them a set of stainless sleeves once produced.

dylan
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
kobylan
Samba Member


Joined: September 01, 2007
Posts: 124
Location: Richmond B.C.
kobylan is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought a complete set a couple of months ago. No problem getting them from VW. Have you tried www.1stvwparts.com ?
_________________
86 Westy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Vanagon Nut
Samba Member


Joined: February 08, 2008
Posts: 9410
Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
Vanagon Nut is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got lucky when doing radius arm work on my '81. Got two of the last few, if not the last 2, that were available to my parts guy.

FWIW, I too thought one could use pipe. I forgot to measure my new ones while still in hand. Meant to do that.

Again FWIW, the metal they're made of is *likely* harder than mild steel. On my '81, the rubber bushings were so worn.... "how worn were they?" .... they ovaled the hole in the subframe. Point is, ovaled hole seemed to take more of a beating that the sleeve and arm.

http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/radiusarm

Neil.
_________________
1981 Westy air cooled to 15 ABA swap: http://tinyurl.com/y9n4xob8

50 ABA Swap in to '88 Westy: http://tinyurl.com/yap5hpwt

Vanagon VAG GAS engine swap Google Group:
https://tinyurl.com/2f24rmh

VE7TBN
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
PDXWesty
Samba Member


Joined: April 11, 2006
Posts: 5772
Location: Portland OR
PDXWesty is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called VW. They are NLA. Anyone have a set they want to sell? Please post the dimensions if you have them. Thanks!
_________________
89 Westy 2.1 Auto
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
squeegee_boy Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: April 27, 2008
Posts: 645
Location: Langley, BC, Canada
squeegee_boy is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought some from GoWesty last month. I had to call, though, because they weren't listed on the site.

Robyn
_________________
1984 FrankenSyncro Westy. EJ25 RMW kit
1971 Super Beetle with an EJ22. Oh yes. Daily driver
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
PDXWesty
Samba Member


Joined: April 11, 2006
Posts: 5772
Location: Portland OR
PDXWesty is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to Mark who sent me the measurements:

56 mm long - 2 3/16
25 mm outside diameter - 1
19 mm inside diameter 3/4

So I'll post the info if I can find a standard pipe or fitting that works. It's almost the size of a 3/4" Sch 80 pipe. OD=1.05" ID=0.742"

It doesn't look like the price for stainless pipe is that bad.
http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=960&a...;top_cat=0

Thanks! -Rick
_________________
89 Westy 2.1 Auto
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
crazyvwvanman
Samba Member


Joined: January 28, 2008
Posts: 8842
Location: Orbiting San Diego
crazyvwvanman is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too noticed how close it was the Schedule 80 steel pipe. I found a place online that sells stainless pipe cut to length and was thinking about ordering some already cut to size. The cost is a bit high for a speculative effort so if someone has a scrap of Sch 80 steel pipe we can test fit that would be great.

edit: I ordered 4 pieces cut to 2.20", if/when it comes I will try the fit. The cutting they offer is not precise, only as a minimum length with it allowed to be 1/8" over that. I anticipate having to use the bench grinder to finish it off.

Mark



PDXWesty wrote:
Thanks to Mark who sent me the measurements:

56 mm long - 2 3/16
25 mm outside diameter - 1
19 mm inside diameter 3/4

So I'll post the info if I can find a standard pipe or fitting that works. It's almost the size of a 3/4" Sch 80 pipe. OD=1.05" ID=0.742"

Thanks! -Rick
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
teej
Samba Member


Joined: November 26, 2010
Posts: 807
Location: Seattle
teej is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW, some more information on sourcing these: I just received a set from gw.

Disappointed in quality, they are pretty sloppy pieces of work. Nice beefy stainless but they also were cut imprecisely, unquare ends all 4 ends, slightly different lengths. Mulling my options: reuse old, return these, or dress the ends and use these anyway.

Have others who have purchased these from said vendor been satisfied?
_________________
1986+ Wolfsburg Weekender Pop-Top 2.3 WBX
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
insyncro
Banned


Joined: March 07, 2002
Posts: 15087
Location: New York
insyncro is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

teej wrote:
FWIW, some more information on sourcing these: I just received a set from gw.

Disappointed in quality, they are pretty sloppy pieces of work. Nice beefy stainless but they also were cut imprecisely, unquare ends all 4 ends, slightly different lengths. Mulling my options: reuse old, return these, or dress the ends and use these anyway.

Have others who have purchased these from said vendor been satisfied?


I have purchased all available over the years.
I have VW units that are cut and beveled on each end.
I still am in the process of having these sleeves and other suspension parts reproduced from the original VW parts.
It is a slow process.
I will inform the lists and forums when they are ready for sale.

dylan
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
indytriple
Samba Member


Joined: April 27, 2009
Posts: 710
Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
indytriple is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

teej wrote:
FWIW, some more information on sourcing these: I just received a set from gw.

Disappointed in quality, they are pretty sloppy pieces of work. Nice beefy stainless but they also were cut imprecisely, unquare ends all 4 ends, slightly different lengths. Mulling my options: reuse old, return these, or dress the ends and use these anyway.

Have others who have purchased these from said vendor been satisfied?


I bought some of these several months ago from GW with the intention of doing some front end work. I never did. I just went out to the garage to inspect them, and sure enough, they definitely are NOT square on the ends, and they are different lengths by almost 2mm per my calipers. I'm not sure if it matters or not, but yes, they don't look to be precision craftsmanship. Should I send mine back as well or does precision even matter in this particular part?
_________________
"See The Glass As Already Broken."

87 Vanagon Westy Auto Bostig

www.bluegrassbicyclecompany.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Classifieds Feedback
insyncro
Banned


Joined: March 07, 2002
Posts: 15087
Location: New York
insyncro is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The replacement parts need to be the same size and finish...IMHO.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
a914622
Samba Member


Joined: July 29, 2004
Posts: 819
Location: Westend of HWY2 , Wash
a914622 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PDX
Run out to your local trade collage and give them a quick drawing with dim. and an idea of the material.

That part would take less than ten munites to make on a manual lathe. That is the perfect project for the students.

With a cnc it should be less than 2 min to make. If you get up by Leapold/Stevens there is a costco west of there. across the parking lot there is a shop that should be able to help you out.

jcl
_________________
87 gl powerd buy 2.5subaru
75 914 getting 2.2t subaru scratch that SVX subaru
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
James 93SLC
Samba Member


Joined: January 21, 2009
Posts: 937
Location: NE Ohio
James 93SLC is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought mine from the Samba classifieds.

Have not installed them yet, but they are nice quality and made from heavy stainless tubing. Great seller and price.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1106616
_________________
-------------------------
91 Vanagon Carat
93 Corrado SLC
-------------------------
Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/slc.corrado
--------------------------------------------------------
tencentlife "Sometimes a pooka is a problem and sometimes it's just a pooka"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
insyncro
Banned


Joined: March 07, 2002
Posts: 15087
Location: New York
insyncro is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

James 93SLC wrote:
Bought mine from the Samba classifieds.

Have not installed them yet, but they are nice quality and made from heavy stainless tubing. Great seller and price.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1106616


Judging by the picture, these were cut with a hacksaw and not beveled either.
Par for the course.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
insyncro
Banned


Joined: March 07, 2002
Posts: 15087
Location: New York
insyncro is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The edge bevel I am referring to is found on the Syncro 16 sleeves I own.
I am having all replacements beveled.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
James 93SLC
Samba Member


Joined: January 21, 2009
Posts: 937
Location: NE Ohio
James 93SLC is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PDXWesty wrote:
Thanks to Mark who sent me the measurements:

56 mm long - 2 3/16
25 mm outside diameter - 1
19 mm inside diameter 3/4

So I'll post the info if I can find a standard pipe or fitting that works. It's almost the size of a 3/4" Sch 80 pipe. OD=1.05" ID=0.742"

It doesn't look like the price for stainless pipe is that bad.
http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=960&a...;top_cat=0

Thanks! -Rick


The ones I bought from here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1106616

Using my Mitutoyo calipers they measure.
Length = 56.12mm
OD = 25.35mm
ID = 19.7mm
_________________
-------------------------
91 Vanagon Carat
93 Corrado SLC
-------------------------
Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/slc.corrado
--------------------------------------------------------
tencentlife "Sometimes a pooka is a problem and sometimes it's just a pooka"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
James 93SLC
Samba Member


Joined: January 21, 2009
Posts: 937
Location: NE Ohio
James 93SLC is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

insyncro wrote:
The edge bevel I am referring to is found on the Syncro 16 sleeves I own.
I am having all replacements beveled.


There are saw marks. But they are square cuts.

Maybe he uses a band saw.
_________________
-------------------------
91 Vanagon Carat
93 Corrado SLC
-------------------------
Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/slc.corrado
--------------------------------------------------------
tencentlife "Sometimes a pooka is a problem and sometimes it's just a pooka"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Vanagon All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2020, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB